10 Tips to Prevent Rape

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Should this leaflet be handed out to the public?

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2141096

There are so many fallacies on this thread it's ridiculous.

• It is possible to give advice to women to minimise their vulnerability.
• It is impossible to avoid completely the chance of being raped.
• It is never the victims fault.

These are not mutually exclusive.

WWW. Do you think children can stop rapists too or just women that are stupid enough to think they can have a couple of beers and trust someone?

Just wondered. Everytime someone talks about victim blaming I wonder what age is the cut off?

Can we change that word "minimise" to something a bit more realistic, MrsBethel? "Slightly lessen" perhaps.

The sad truth is that the statistically greatest threat is likely to come from men who promise to protect you: by walking you home from that party, insisting on giving you a lift from work, keeping you away from socialising (in the case of partners) to protect you from other men.

FANTASTIC

Honestly, what advice would you give a woman to minimise her chance of being raped?

What one thing?

Because I can't think of anything.

If she got in a box and wrapped it in chains and had it thrown in th eriver (a la Houdini), she might have a chance.

LaWeasel Don't leave your drink with a stranger who is trying it on?

cory maybe 'slightly lessen' would be more appropriate.

And if a woman completely avoided the company of all men and never went out, and one day a rapist broke into her home and raped her some people would say that she could have prevented the rape if she'd learned to interact properly with men and allowed one to own her.

I can't think of any, either, LaWeasel. Except SGM's anecdote. And I'll be damned if I'm giving up the majority of my friends on the off chance one of them may rape me.

Ridiculous - and still doesn't work.

My aunt was raped when she was home alone (someone broke in) I have heard of other similar stories - including on here.

And a woman could still sexually assault you. It's not technically rape, but I'm sure the emotional impact is extremely similar.

I have only read this page

But I see what Mrs Bethel means, I would, for example, tell my dd (and ds) never to leave a drink unattended, not to dance about in the badlands alone at night etc etc

I do agree that in order to stay safe when drinking not living your drink unattended, travelling in groups of 3s help minimise risks. But they help minimise risks of anything bad happening at all, to anyone of either gender, not just rape.

I think it is fundamentally wrong to market advice like that as rape-avoidance advice.

MrsBethel. Again. 80% of rapes are carried out by someone the victim knows.

My ex's drink got spiked, ironically considering... I'd been at the bar, ordered drinks, had only spoken to the barmaid. I've never worked out when whatever got dropped into my ex's drink got dropped. I suspect it was as I was putting my purse away. I'd been with a big group of male friends, and my ex. No one had been trying it on.

You're drink can still be spiked even when someone is watching it. My daughters was spiked, hers wasn't left unattended, but some one still managed to sneak something in it. Thankfully her friends were with her when the drug hit.

I do think it should be posted up in pubs and clubs and indeed everywhere. It will make people think.

My friend had a similar story at University slightlymad no one could work out when it had happened and who had done it. Thankfully she was with friends who noticed straight away when it started taking effect.

If stuff like that means even just one less woman gets raped, it's worth it. Even if it offends some people.

Y'know. Teaching men and boys about consent would prevent a lot of rapes.

Teaching them that, y'know... acting like a decent human being doesn't give you entitlement... that would prevent a lot of rapes.

Again. How do you prevent the 80% of rapes carried out by someone the victim knows and trusts? Or how do you prevent the woman from getting raped anyway, regardless of whether the rapist had a chance to spike her drink... Because, if a rapist wants to rape, he'll do it regardless of whether he's spiked his intended victim's drink

I dunno, Teaspoons, depends on the man. Dh for eg, walks lots of my friends home at 2 in the morning, as do my brothers, good male friends etc.

Should they walk alone? I dunno. (Genuine question). I do get your point.

In addition, UPT, if a person on a jury has seen this poster, has their rape myths beliefs reinforced and convinces some fence-sitting fellow jurors that the victim put herself in danger by - so can they really convict the rapist beyond reasonable doubt? So the rapist goes on to rape more women. Multiply that by only a small percentage of rape trials every year and that is a LOT of rapes that could have been prevented by rape myths not prevailing.

But how can you know which man will turn out to be a rapist?

Do they have an "R" branded on their forehead? Do sirens sound when you're within 50 metres of them?

Any of those male friends, your brothers or even your DH could turn out to be a rapist. I'm not saying they are. But sometimes it's more dangerous to walk home with a male friend than it is to walk home alone.

Again. 80% of rapes are carried out by someone known to the victim.