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10 Tips to Prevent Rape

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coldwed · 19/10/2011 09:43

Should this leaflet be handed out to the public?

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2141096

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StewieGriffinsMom · 19/10/2011 20:33

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AnyPhantomFucker · 19/10/2011 20:40

nobody report sheroleforjustice post

let it stand

StewieGriffinsMom · 19/10/2011 20:40

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MillyR · 19/10/2011 20:41

This all seems ridiculous to me.

The chances of being raped in a dark alley are very small. Most people who walk down dark alleys drunk in the dark in a revealing alley are not raped. Most people who are raped are not raped in an alley in the dark by a stranger.

Telling people to avoid dark alleys is like telling people to avoid choking to death by not eating cream buns.

I am sure some people have choked to death on cream buns, but isn't it rather dangerous to advise people to avoid choking to death by not eating cream buns, rather than focus on the more likely scenarios in which choking occurs?

Also, I like eating cream buns and walking home at night drunk. I dislike people telling me I should avoid them because of some event which is no more likely to happen to me than if I behaved differently.

AnyPhantomFucker · 19/10/2011 20:42

justice eh ? [hhmm]

blackoutthesun · 19/10/2011 20:42

i was tempted i'll be honest but i haven't

BeyondLimitsOfTheLivingDead · 19/10/2011 20:43

likewise Angry

slightlymad72 · 19/10/2011 20:43

'Two to Tango' I think I have seen it all now.

AnyPhantomFucker · 19/10/2011 20:44

sorry for sounding bossy, wanted to get it out there quickly

I say let it stand

it shows what we are still dealing with

people really do think like this

blackoutthesun · 19/10/2011 20:47

i know what you mean Any

can't believe in 2011 people still think like that Sad

SolidGoldVampireBat · 19/10/2011 20:47

One of the things that makes me furious uneasy about the persistent idea that women shouldn't walk home alone is what a rapists' charter this is. Because an awful lot of men consider rape as what other men do, so they will insist on walking a woman home so that those other men can't rape her, but then will insist that having kept the other rapists away, they are now entitled to fuck the woman. An awful lot of the structure of the patriarchy is about convincing women that the way to avoid rape is to acquire a male owner (remember those threads about how women unaccompanied by a man experience persistent harassment from men who will only fuck off when the woman tells them that she is another man's property - because if she is not owned she is 'available') when in fact women are mostly raped by men who know them and therefore feel entitled to fuck them because women aren't really people and therefore their opinions are entirely irrelevant.

Tianc · 19/10/2011 20:48

Not reported for the very same reason.

Also informative to watch the development of that poster:

  1. here's another better way to prevent rape
  2. you lot don't agree, so you don't want to prevent rape
  3. women who are raped have equal responsibility with the rapist (two to tango)

So even at step (2), women are being blamed for rape ? simply for refusing to support rape myths.

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 19/10/2011 20:49

I agree, AF.

Tianc · 19/10/2011 20:52

Very true, SGB. The time I have felt most in danger was from a man who attempted to escort me home from somewhere very isolated, insisting over and over that I would need protection from potential rapists. Hmm

chibi · 19/10/2011 20:53

regarding the safety of going out at night, in other exciting news

if you are in the london area on sat 26 november, why not pop along to reclaim the night

me and shedloads of other women will be there

whose streets?

OUR STREETS

my streets

StewieGriffinsMom · 19/10/2011 20:55

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fit2drop · 19/10/2011 21:02

Sherole thanks .... FUCKING THANKS A FUCKING LOT!! YOU FUCKING MORON!!

wanna here the story of a 21 yr old mum of 2, just found out she was pregnant with 3rd, so happy , all planned pregnancies.

Then raped by 2 guys ,

couldn't tell husband,

flash backs,

irrational fear of anyone having anything to do with the baby when born because she felt the baby was only clean thing about her.

Ending up on a mother and baby unit for three months

5 years of intense psychology of which 2 yrs was 5 days a week...

marriage breakdown. so 3 kids now in a broken home

This mum didn't say no, this mum just let them do what they wanted to do in a fucking public park (have since realised that anyone seeing such an act would have thought it was some young indiscreet people)

36 years of fucking guilt and self blame

I DIDNT SAY NO....WANNA KNOW WHY.... COS MY TONGUE WAS PHYSICALLY STUCK TO THE ROOF OF MY MOUTH THROUGH SHEER FEAR.

sO i NEVER SAID NO ...MEANS i TANGO'D DID IT?

SHEROLE YOU ARE A MORONIC FUCKWIT!!
ABSOLUTELY THE MOST DISGUSTING VILE POST i HAVE EVER READ ON mn.

chibi · 19/10/2011 21:04

i know! exciting liasing to commence imminently!

fwiw though i know that most rapes are not committed by strangers after dark etc, this is a public way to reaffirm that it is not my job to stop people raping me

and also cos i was one of the few who are assaulted by strangers, so it is a pretty big deal for me personally and massive act of courage to go out alone at night

Uppity · 19/10/2011 21:05

Excellent observation by SGB there.

It's true isn't it, so many men feel entitled to fuck you because they've warded off all those other, nasty rapists. So they expect you to show them your gratitude by er, allowing them to rape you and not call it rape.

StewieGriffinsMom · 19/10/2011 21:07

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DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 19/10/2011 21:07
AnyPhantomFucker · 19/10/2011 21:10

((( fit2drop )))

AnyPhantomFucker · 19/10/2011 21:11

I love sgb's take on these kinds of threads

utterly cuts through the bullshit

NinkyNonker · 19/10/2011 21:14

I wanted to name change but couldnt figure out how to Blush but here goes anyway. I was raped as a teenager, by my much loved boyfriend. We had gone to his school leaving do, and I got horrendously drunk (I wasn't much of a drinker) and went to sleep it off under a tree. I have flashbacks of him coming along and having his way with me (sorry about the twee terminology) and then going back to his party.

So yes, you know what? At the time I did think it was my fault.Was I too drunk to say no? Possibly, but definitely too drunk to consent or take part. But not too drunk to remember it though. I never even mentioned it to him, I was too confused/ashamed.

blackoutthesun · 19/10/2011 21:15

((fit2drop))