STAND UP AND BE COUNTED AND STOP THE ATTACKS ON SN PARENTS

[4madboys]

ok NOT an aibu, but this is where it will be seen the most and it NEEDS awareness.

quite frankly, i along with others am appalled at the comments that are being made and left to stand, toward the SN community, they are downright offensive and quite simply appalling.

i am sure (or hope) that the majority on here do NOT agree with them but yet the SN community on mn are not being supported, whether this is because people do not know what to say, or they havent seen these posts i do not know?

BUT IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT THINGS CHANGED, so this a thread where you can stand up and be counted and say that you do not agree with the disregard, blatant trolling and offensive behaviour towards our lovely mn who have or are dealing with sn in their family.

they need this place for support, not the vile behaviour that they are getting.

so please post here and show your support and help make a change for the better.

all it takes is a smile next to your name to show you agree :)

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LSA working with children who have disabilities, also I probably would not be counted as NT myself!

I don't post a lot on MN but will try to fight the good fight.

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Oh dear lord, we shouldn't be telling shiney to fuck off!

It is absoloutely understandable that someone holds the view that we should stand and fight.
It is hard to imagine how draining it is. I am in the stand and fight camp but I have time and money and an attentive supportive dh and friends and all that good stuff.

I don't blame anyone who can't see the desperation when everything in your life starts to feel like a battle. It is hard to imagine.

Fighting everyone will not make any of us feel any better. It certainly won't make any of us get more support. It is not a proportionate response.

and too

Also I agree with Pag about fighting

[arse kissing emoticon]

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I agree Pg, I admire POG a lot but as long as we fire off fuck offs at people we make ourselvces look insanely reactionary.

Whilst it will only be calm sense that changes things whetehr we like it or not.

well said Pagwatch.

- fully agree - we don't come to mumsnet to be harassed, bullied or insulted. We come here for friendship, support, advice and sometimes just a little laugh to take us away from the problems we face IRL. It is disgusting that people have turned a supportive and nurturing environment into a place of judgement and even worse ridicule!!!!

I know little to nothing about life with a child with SN, but I am slowly being taught by a very good friend whose daily struggles seem gargantuan to me, but run of the mill to him.

MN really do need to step up to the plate here.

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Oh neverknowingly your MN name made me laugh! Thank you.

FWIW the support and handholding I've had from MN since discovering my DS had SN has been amazing, but some of the ignorant crap I've had to read from others has taken my breath away.

Comments, for example complaining that everyone on MN seems to have a kid with SN and that they're looking to be offended are irritating in the extreme. Its like using racist language and then saying complaining that everyone on MN is looking to be offended when they're challenged.

If someone is offended by what you've written then its probably becasue, intentionally or not, you've said something offensive. In the main part people take on board what's said and don't repeat it, but then you get those who will just keep on going regardless.

No, I don't have oodles of strength to challenge. TBH my biggest challenge is trying to to my best for my child on a daily basis and I come on MN to get away from that.

Respect and politeness works both ways and I don't think shineoncrazydiamond should have been spoken to like that because of what she said.

I think seeing things like that will just make a lot of posters think they'd rather avoid any kind of subject on SN rather than tiptoe on egg shells.

C'mon worraliberty - I had already posted that.
You know you just ache to post 'i agree with Pagwatch'

You know you really do ...

And fwiw I have taken on board your comments about language.
I tend to use cunt
A) because I don't like it being considered the worst word and b) I always enjoy the hypocrisy of those who bleat about the right to use horrible words about sn and then get all indignant about...er..a word they don't like. Their outrage trumps your because they don't think you (people dealing with sn) matter much. It is a sublime mix of stupidity and arrogance.

But I think it swamps the argument. So I shall reduce . Can't promise to desist but it's a star.

andrewofgg - I just wanted to repeat what I put on the other thread re. the use of ignorant - glad you liked it! I thought it would be useful here as well:

in terms of using the word "ignorant", I sort of assume that it is used as shorthand for "wilfully fucking pig-ignorant" rather than it's literal meaning of "doesn't know about stuff". That's how I use it in these situations, anyway.

fair enough that shouldnt have been said to shineon, but it was only said by one poster and in response to what was or seemed to be a rather patronising comment. but i didnt start this thread for it to turn into a fight, tho i thought it may!

its great to see so many :) and positive comments, lets home mn takes notice.

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NeverKnowingly i think that's understandable; many of us are past the getting-things-sorted stage (OK for a short time, ds3 reaches transition stage next year and ds4 is at the start of diagnosis) and perhaps better equipped to shout than others. There's only so much any one person can take on for sure.

'Comments, for example complaining that everyone on MN seems to have a kid with SN'

I wonder if this is becuase people cannot see the SN section and do not know it is there so are then surprised when we all go into AIBU? they don't even realise MN has a resource for SN attracting people? Not sure i'd want it unhidden tbh, but it might explain some of it.

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Thankfully for every one ignorant post there will be ten lovely MNers who say wonderful sensible and supportive things and totally denounce the said poster. But that doesn't make it right that certain posts are left to stand.