STAND UP AND BE COUNTED AND STOP THE ATTACKS ON SN PARENTS

[4madboys]

ok NOT an aibu, but this is where it will be seen the most and it NEEDS awareness.

quite frankly, i along with others am appalled at the comments that are being made and left to stand, toward the SN community, they are downright offensive and quite simply appalling.

i am sure (or hope) that the majority on here do NOT agree with them but yet the SN community on mn are not being supported, whether this is because people do not know what to say, or they havent seen these posts i do not know?

BUT IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT THINGS CHANGED, so this a thread where you can stand up and be counted and say that you do not agree with the disregard, blatant trolling and offensive behaviour towards our lovely mn who have or are dealing with sn in their family.

they need this place for support, not the vile behaviour that they are getting.

so please post here and show your support and help make a change for the better.

all it takes is a smile next to your name to show you agree :)

Oops not

clearly I'm very happy to support

ProfessionallyOffendedGoblin posted three links at 12:43 where you can see some Hugh.

I agree Peachy that more needs to be done on here,and in general re education,and I was amazed by some of the disablist remarks that were left on the theme park thread,that really should have been removed, and on other threads.

I can see why some people think the comments should be left as they are,but at the same time deleting them shows that they aren't acceptable, and reading such remarks must be like having a constantly open wound rubbed over with sandpaper for the parents of children with SN and for those with disabilities. People have enough crap to deal with in RL.
I think it's wise to do what we can to minimise the hurt it causes here.

Apologies for the possibly unrelated ramble. I seem to have gone off on a tangent.

I would like to just add that I thought, before joining MN, that I was fairly understanding and careful of anything around disability and SN. I was quickly proved wrong and have been educated on these boards - so it does help, but some people just don't want to be educated. I have seen threads where people defend their right to use certain words just because historically/regionally it's accepted practice (among the population not involved with disability) - and won't back down even when the origin of the words are explained, when they are told how offensive these words are to people with disability, and who think it's still funny.

Those people are the ones who need to be pulled up short by MN - because they are wilfully refusing to be educated, and their views are abhorrent and highly upsetting to parents who have to deal with similar attitudes, day in, day out, in RL. They don't need it on here as well.

I really think locking would be better than deleting. Then everyone can see who said what and what kind of comments are not acceptable and will cause a thread to get locked. Most other forums do this and it saves a lot of misery and also educates ignorant people as to what is acceptable an what isn't.

4mad can I ask what PNP is? it's really nice to se you back though. And a girl! Wow! Not sure I know what one of those is

Nice to see lots of people here as well, is ableism the right term then Dittany? I never know. racism and sexism seems clear but the closest I am come up with for this is abilityism which is crap becuase whilst gender and race is set, ability is many things. Disablephobia? More along the lines of the sexuality bigotry term?

Not that it matters obviously.

Locking can work but something that worlks for a friend who runs a site is to shift threads-gone-bad into a area called the 'holding room' which is a warning for thread deletion combined with a very overt heads up that things ahve got out of control.

Being on MN has educated me hugely into the challenges those with and caring for those with SN face every day. It has made me more aware in RL of how ingrained and offensive many people's view are. I don't often see offensive stuff on here, except the odd thread where things have really kicked off. However, I do think offensive views should be challenged whenever and wherever they are found, and I resolve to do this .

Thumb good post.

I worked with famillies sometimes afffected by ASD before coming here and even before the boys I learned an awful lot, including some things I thought I was saying that were nice but instead were counted as irritating things profesionals say. Everyone has something to learn- and if your answer is not me I now it all tehn you failed the wanker screening test frankly.

peachy, pnp is post natal pyschosis, so essentially i went a bit 'mad' well more mad than i was/am already! and yes a girl! essentially she seems to be just the same as her brothers tho its slightly harder to change her nappy...all that poo gets into their umm front creases!

Holding room sounds useful. Although would probably be a field day for trolls, trying to get threads in there. With locking, any useful info in the thread is retained on the forum. You just delete the post that is offensive then lock the thread with an explanation why, but leave the thread where it is for future reference.

Also, I just want to say, I'm new to mn and have been shocked at the general rudeness of some posters towards each other, I don't thin it's confined towards SN. They are just cowards who obviously have their own issues and misguidely think that spitting vitriol at others is somehow acceptable.

Oh 4mad, I did wonder if it was that; I had a family where the mother had that at homestart, well she was in recovery, just got out of hospital but how sad for you. I hope you are feeling stronger now?

yes fine now :) i had a homestart volunteer as well, she was lovely :) thankfully it didnt recurr with dd and i had a great cpn who supported me with my recovery and then kept an eye on me during pregnancy and afterwards with dd.

not a nice experience, but just one of those things :)

:)

I did find this that made me think- Thomas Carlyle- if jesus was alive today they would not crucify him, they would ask him to dinner and laugh at him instead. So apt.

To begin with what matters :)

But as I have said elsewhere be careful of calling others ignorant. A child who does not know what a white stick is literally ignorant of it; but you don't blame the child for that, not even the parents if the child is only just old enough to understand. And similarly it's only from MN that I have learnt about those SN children who cannot queue - before then I was not ignorant, I was unaware.

Unaware is good, unaware draws a distinction between those who are not aware and those who are but do not care.

Sorry guys I'm taking my smiley and fucking off.

Had a post on the other thread deleted and it's confirmed for me exactly what stance MNHQ are taking over all this. Best of luck to you guys still able to fight this but I'm sorry I haven't the energy anymore.

Oh mama

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