STAND UP AND BE COUNTED AND STOP THE ATTACKS ON SN PARENTS

[4madboys]

ok NOT an aibu, but this is where it will be seen the most and it NEEDS awareness.

quite frankly, i along with others am appalled at the comments that are being made and left to stand, toward the SN community, they are downright offensive and quite simply appalling.

i am sure (or hope) that the majority on here do NOT agree with them but yet the SN community on mn are not being supported, whether this is because people do not know what to say, or they havent seen these posts i do not know?

BUT IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT THINGS CHANGED, so this a thread where you can stand up and be counted and say that you do not agree with the disregard, blatant trolling and offensive behaviour towards our lovely mn who have or are dealing with sn in their family.

they need this place for support, not the vile behaviour that they are getting.

so please post here and show your support and help make a change for the better.

all it takes is a smile next to your name to show you agree :)

[Mouseface]

Indeed Oblomov

Peachy I am appalled. I have no words, I really don't.

[LurcioLovesFrankie]

Standing up to be counted. I try to avoid the hideousness of AIBU threads but will try to make more of an effort to step in in future and try to challenge people spouting crap.

[unpa1dcar3r]

Wonder if our esteemed (!) leader will read any of this. Ha, as likely as an icecreams chances in hell he will but I wish he bloody would.

[Peachy]

There's a parallel appeal in the feminista rea following the exit of Dittany.

I suspect that as long as we are divided into groups nothing will ahppen: anyone any ideas how we could ALL work together on this?

[4madboys]

well we could do a thread about how memebers are leaving because of the abuse/troll issue asking mnhq what they are going to do about it, because as things stands it doesnt bode well for the site!

[Sevenfold]

Peachy I was thinking that earlier. we really need to unite on this.
Ilive in the sn world so notice the vile attacks on sn most, but I lurked on Dittany's flounce and seems so sad that valued posters are leaving due to the attacks(I never go into that topic so have no idea what is going on, but it sounds bad)

[shaz298]

Standing up here too. I too am from the SN world and want to say thank you to OP for starting this thread :) :)

[Peachy]

Apparently it happened on the step aprenting board as well, someone left in tears.

4mad sounds like a paln; want to start it then i will link it to the feminsim board?

[unpa1dcar3r]

Over to you Peachy!
If people are feeling that they have to leave due to others making nasty remarks then it should be stopped.
If people are simply disagreeing with a post then that's different but no need to be downright nasty...
Had one or two things said to me once, really unnecessary. Difference is I don't give a shit cos I know I'm way more intelligent than the poster/s who wrote stupid things and know they would not dare say it to my face. Too easy to be cocky behind a screen!
But it can be very upsetting for some, esp if you're feeling a bit low anyway for one reason or another.

[Sevenfold]

the only problem I can see is that being disabled of having a disabled child is rather different to feminism.
it isn't something that people choose to do or feel, it is not something anyone would choose.
so putting the 2 together might mean we get forgotton

[SheliaBlige]

Good point Seven

[4madboys]

well i agree with peachy that we do need a united front, some way for ALL mnetters to say, 'hang on a minute this abuse and trolling of the board is NOT ok'

how we go about that is another issue tho, i am happy to start anther thread, but i may pm you peachy to clarify on wording etc, its important that we get i right and say exactly what is is that we want changing etc?


and thankyou shaz :)

[Thumbwitch]

Have you all seen this article in the guardian?

The article itself is so-so - but the comments below it just show what everyone involved with anyone with disabilities is up against. :(

Attitudes need to change so much, and if this thread can change just a few, it's a good start.

[Mouseface]

thumb

[Peachy]

Thumb won;t read thanks- would be great for otehrs but I tend to find those things depressing. And that's thr Guardian- wtf would teh DM be like?

[4madboys]

depressing is right peachy :(

i have my period and 'may' be a tad hormonal and touchy today.....

i read an article in a baby magazine today about bfeeding, some woman saying how the WHO guildlines are relevant to the UK...she is a dr and has published an article? it was so one sided gahh. is it me or is parenting just a minefield, what with homework and uniform issues with my kids, issues for parents with sn, which are frankly incomprehensible to me and i feel like i want to support you all but where the hell do we start when a parenting forum supposedly for suport is tbh turning into a place where i dont actually want to post anymore, its so confrontational, agressive and people are downright rude.........goes to have a fag.......

[PeneloPeePitstop]

I'd say that anything that unites this board against any kind of trolling is a good thing and I'd back it all the way.

[Peachy]

It's ridiculous 4,mad I know

OTOH have you read here to cheer you

[Peachy]

OOps sorry ta Penelo

[4madboys]

that should be ARENT relevant to the UK btw, ie that exclusive bfeeding for 6mths is bad yada.

thanks peachy

[CardyMow]

At the comments on that article - and I coulod only bring myself to read the first 10 or so. I face those attitudes every day, both in relation to myself and to my dc. I'm beginning to wonder if it's even worth going outside? I already have a very small pool of friends, because hardly anyone can cope with the multiple issues in my family enough to spend time with me, or because they are so ignorant and uninformed and bigoted about disability that I do not want to be around them.

I have 2 friends in RL that I will actually spend time with. One has a child with autism, the other has a child with ADHD and possible Aspergers/asd. Have realised how SN based my friendship circle really is. I have other acquaintances, that I can and will chat to, but wouldn't seek out spending time together with IYKWIM.

Just getting so tired of fighting every day, fighting the 'looks' I get when my 13yo, adult-sized DD has a lying on the ground, full-on kicking and screaming meltdown that looks like an overgrown toddler having a tantrum. Earlier this week, I had to deal with that on a bus after work (new routine for DD, meltdowns increasing...). The stares, and tuts and huffs and even FGS comments were so bad that I ended up getting OFF the bus and walking home crying. After a full day at work, knowing that I still had 6 hours of housework to go, and a night of getting up 5+ times to bf DS3.

I think I'm going to have to give up work already, anyway. The other CM that does look after SN dc is full. Totally full. DD can't be left at home on her own, so I don't really have a choice. . So in 3 weeks time, it will be me back to being a 'benefits scrounger' again.

[Sevenfold]

it isn't all about trolling though.
a lot of the worst anti sn posts I have seen have not been by trolls.
they have been by posters who been around long enough to know better.
I do refer to them as trolls as what I really think of them is too rude.
they get reported over and over, yet fuck all is done

[Thumbwitch]

Peachy - glad you didn't read it. It IS depressing and quite shocking really but I suppose I was posting it to show that
a) it's not just a few people on these boards that have disablist attitudes (that's for the people who have "never seen" it here, I know people with SN and parents of people with SN are FULLY aware that it exists)
b) that MNHQ aren't alone in their seeming ability to ignore disablist comments, they seem to be just following the government line.

However, it probably was unnecessary and unhelpful so I apologise.

[Sevenfold]

there is a thread in site stuff that will now derail all this

[Thumbwitch]

linky?