STAND UP AND BE COUNTED AND STOP THE ATTACKS ON SN PARENTS

[4madboys]

ok NOT an aibu, but this is where it will be seen the most and it NEEDS awareness.

quite frankly, i along with others am appalled at the comments that are being made and left to stand, toward the SN community, they are downright offensive and quite simply appalling.

i am sure (or hope) that the majority on here do NOT agree with them but yet the SN community on mn are not being supported, whether this is because people do not know what to say, or they havent seen these posts i do not know?

BUT IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT THINGS CHANGED, so this a thread where you can stand up and be counted and say that you do not agree with the disregard, blatant trolling and offensive behaviour towards our lovely mn who have or are dealing with sn in their family.

they need this place for support, not the vile behaviour that they are getting.

so please post here and show your support and help make a change for the better.

all it takes is a smile next to your name to show you agree :)

Shineon I think it's becuase we have lost 3 since last night, I know another one is thinking about it, and it might just set MN back to the old default of support.

:)

Worra- Sorry, i sometimes post how i speak , i'm often to tired to be turned on by anything, but i enjoy a good bun fight.

I haven't seen any of these comments. Surely the people who make them get roundly challenged on the threads themselves? If mnhq were to delete then we'd have even more complaints about trigger-happy deleting. Oh I don't know, its hard to say whether its better to leave offensive comments up so that we all know who to mentally write off when we next come across them. I am sure there must be an explanation for it.

I've just said on the other thread that I have been educated since being here, I have used terminology which was not insulting exactly but outdated, I was put right, - very kindly by the way - and I'm grateful to be picked up on such thing so as not to make a total nob out of myself again .

But when posters refuse to accept their language and attitude is 'just not on' is when more support is needed.

I have had enough of the disablist threads on MN, of which there have been plenty in the last few months. Lots of bitterness towards people for having blue badges, getting disability benefits etc.

It does get tiring and its always the same shit spouted. Plus it's all over the boards, not just in the SN section. I actually find AIBU topics the worst for being diablist and condescending those who cannot work due to their or their children's disability. Yeah sure you can challenge the arrogant wankers on the individual thread, but it doesn't really change their viewpoint, it just makes them argue back.

What annoys me most is the approach of MNHQ. On a recent thread slating blue badge users, of which it was very rude about those with disabilities, I complained to MN that it was offensive. The response I got was a very rushed - challenge it if you have a problem.

If I was to be racist or homophobic etc I would expect my posts to be pulled ASAP. But on MN disability bashing is becoming ever increasing acceptable, which sometimes makes for unpleasant reading. I'm not going to leave, I like MN for all it's other aspects, I just wish MN would be more fair across the board. I don't think that is too much to ask.

i am not saying that all the posts should be deleted, but it would be nice if more people posted and said 'that is NOT ok'

and why cant mnhq educte if they are so keen for us to do it? when they see these posts (especially the reported ones) they dont need to delete them BUT they can come on and say 'hey some of these views are ignorant and offensive, and maybe even put up some links and 'help' educate, rather than leave it to the minority group who are the ones that get the same old shit thrown at them time after time.

and thankyou pagawatch for your big post on the previous? page :)

and yes it is posters leaving that has promted this, two of them i 'know' offsite, this should be place where they can come for support, not a board that they have not essentially been hounded off. :(

There's a thread elsewhere with a post that 2shoes ahs put on from glitter explaining.

But there at times within anyone's life, especially I think those lives that are a little atypical, when their strength fluctuates. I know I am not as strong right now as I was 3 months ago before ds4 regressed, or will be in 2 months time once I have adjusted. It just is like that.

And if you are not strong then leaving and keeping your own MH your priority is sensible.

we've got trigger happy deletions for racist stuff,but disablist stuff stands.
so does that mean mumsnet condones it...

shineon? yes i am sure they do have masses of strength but perhaps they have other needs and uses for it and why should they just laugh it off?!

it is essentially bullying which gets demoralising and wears you down, glitter has already pointed out that many carers often have poor mental health outcomes and stuff like this does NOT help.

and what professionallyoffendedgoblin said!

lol mofo put some cream on those singed nipples

My first fuck off.
I'll be calling people cunts next.
I blame Pag.

shine on your post really was rather patronising tbh.

'I would have thought that parents of SN children would have masses of strength and be able to just laugh at these cretins..pity them almost?'

What wank & nope I don't have the energy to educate. Utter wank will have to do.

and why cant mnhq educte if they are so keen for us to do it? when they see these posts (especially the reported ones) they dont need to delete them BUT they can come on and say 'hey some of these views are ignorant and offensive, and maybe even put up some links and 'help' educate, rather than leave it to the minority group who are the ones that get the same old shit thrown at them time after time

Because that's not their job.

Equally when people are having a 'cunt fest' and posting every single swearword known to mankind (and a few I've had to Google!) they could come on and pull people up over that.

But what offends one person does not necessarily offend another...parents of SN kids included.

I've often seen someone take offence at something to do with special needs, while another poster with a special needs child is not offended.

Much of it is too subjective for MNHQ to get involved...and let's not forget we've all seen posters who would take offence at a fly landing on their desk because it 'looked at them funny'.

Ok. I have read those threads now, well, skimmed them.

It seems to me that a few people made out-and-out horrid comments. I am thinking of the 'LOL'ing at 'special-needsy', for example. Did this post get reported and ignored by HQ? If so, for shame, HQ.

It seems that elsewhere there is a lot of genuine ignorance, particularly surrounding non-physical disabilities. I think the themepark thread demonstrated this well, and I think those who chose to eductate on that thread did a good job. I think it would be counter-productive for HQ to delete rermarks made in ignorance and with no malice intended.

Well, so, .

When I see remarks designed to offend through mocking/hating a part of someone over which they have no contrtol, (disability, race, sexual orientation) I will shout out. I do find it depressing that this needs to be said, really.