STAND UP AND BE COUNTED AND STOP THE ATTACKS ON SN PARENTS

[4madboys]

ok NOT an aibu, but this is where it will be seen the most and it NEEDS awareness.

quite frankly, i along with others am appalled at the comments that are being made and left to stand, toward the SN community, they are downright offensive and quite simply appalling.

i am sure (or hope) that the majority on here do NOT agree with them but yet the SN community on mn are not being supported, whether this is because people do not know what to say, or they havent seen these posts i do not know?

BUT IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT THINGS CHANGED, so this a thread where you can stand up and be counted and say that you do not agree with the disregard, blatant trolling and offensive behaviour towards our lovely mn who have or are dealing with sn in their family.

they need this place for support, not the vile behaviour that they are getting.

so please post here and show your support and help make a change for the better.

all it takes is a smile next to your name to show you agree :)

[LeBOF]

There are loads of threads about this at the moment. Just tell whoever it is who is being a wanker to cock off and report hate speech, surely? We aren't wilting flowers are we?

It all feels a bit "sign here if you think it's nasty to drown kittens".

[Kladdkaka]

It's like, how many able bodied people without sn kids would have really believed the hostility, resentment, judgement and abuse we face on a daily basis if it weren't for the weekly installment of 'why are blue badge holders allowed to deprive me of my parking space' thread.

[MangoMonster]

:)

[ProfessionallyOffendedGoblin]

'I haven't seen anyone being unreasonable that has not been challenged.'

But by the same people Henry. Over and over again.
What about the rest of the civilised world?

[worraliberty]

Exactly Kladdkaka

I don't believe MN should 'hush up' ignorant opinions and sweep them under the carpet like they don't exist.

If they did and a parent of a SN child posted to say they'd come up against abuse and ignorance in the street...they'd probably not be believed if people were to base it against only positive posts.

[Peachy]

If someone uses a wrong word I try to quietly says as an aside we tend not to sue that word here. I also educate about specifics of Sn etc where I can.

But that thread about truancy? no education to be done; just hurtful opinion. Choidl safety rhead was beyond bizarre, snidey laughing at parents of Sn kids in fct.

And Mn rarely delete but that argument has been had so many times. They say educate but when it's the sme people coing back time after time- they're there for the reaction not the debate.

And then people start threads whining about people who always have the sme topics which turns to Sn soon enough, and by degfending yourself you end up realising that you have stuck a great big free-for-all sign on your forehead.

I think where a tone is very nasty posts should be deleted; overt laughing at SN parents such as on the one that forced Fanjo away is hideous, as an example. Also if the ones that you ask to educate are deleting in droves, or people in need of support being driven away, it's a clue that things have gone too far.

[Pagwatch]

I think it is because three (I think) regulars with dc with sn have left this weekend lebof

I am happy to cunt shout but whilst not wilting flowers some are more vulnerable than others I think. I would hate mn to be survival of the fittest.

But you go drown kittens you grumpy soak

[Peachy]

And yes challenged by teh same people.

Sometimes we need a break.

ATM I am watching my three year old regress into a nervous wreck, coutesy I am sure of AD. I ahve been through this and dx twice before: ai am not strong enough atm to handle the crap and educate.

Yet I don't want to have to go away; surely I am aloowed support too?

Many of teh aprents of SN kids on here are going through a traumatic time, they should get a say in whether they educate or not.

It's not hard to tell the ones needing education either; they engage. the others just keep poking.

[Peachy]

Shineon they stand on the threads, linked to on the sitestuff thread (I have them hidden, I am slightly ashamed of my behaviour on those)

[Birdsgottafly]

I would like to see more constructive debate and objectivity, to get points across. I was flamed on a thread for saying that posters had jumped in to early and called a poster who had asked a question a 'twat'. I and others were turned on.

People do come onto MN to gain knowledge, they shouldn't be frightened to ask.

Whereas you can have a good idea of what life is like for others living with less money, bad housing etc, you don't really know what life is like for a family living with disability. You cannot know without asking, even if you have some experience, as SN's vary so much.

I deliberately try to stay objective and quote the law, leglislation, qualifications of those that are saying, ASD exsists, for example, it breaks the other persons arguement down, by not making it subjective.

[Kladdkaka]

I'd like to see the threads in question too. Can someone link them?

[worraliberty]

I don't think they're always challenged by the same people

I think it's more a case of the same people tend to be on SN threads because for personal reasons, they have more of an interest in them.

If it's a thread totally unrelated to SN, but SN gets brought up and someone's being nasty, you will see other people pulling them up and having a go.

It's like if someone starts a thread with 'feminism' in the title...after a little while you'll see the same few posters turn up to post on that thread, even though they tend no to post in AIBU much.

[worraliberty]

"I was flamed on a thread for saying that posters had jumped in to early and called a poster who had asked a question a 'twat'." I and others were turned on

Oh birds I've just brought coffee through my nose here...I got the meaning of 'turned on' totally wrong

[ProfessionallyOffendedGoblin]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1297065-to-allow-my-baby-to-hurt-herself

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1297075-To-wonder-what-the-govt-has-planned-to-punish-those-NOT-on-benefits

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1292647-to-think-attitudes-to-disabilities-in-a-themepark-should-be-better

[Peachy]

the links are on this thread

Sorry but am not going to go on the threads to get addresses, get upset again and end up being number 4 to go

[RockStockAndTwoOpenBottles]

[Peachy]

Ah x posts excellent POG

[ProfessionallyOffendedGoblin]

I'm staying.
With my pointy stick and my Doc Martins and my flameproof knickers.

[ProfessionallyOffendedGoblin]

Well, educating the masses is sort of my choice, but I don't see why everyone should have to make the same one.
It's a shame that the choices on offer seem to be fight or flight.

[Peachy]

I think a big issue with the safety one was the way that Fanjo was jumped on for making a passing comment that her baby had SN. People blew it up to be far more than it was then it collapsed, was quite clear that people 'know' Fanjo.

The other one was similar I think. And the posters on there, just IMO, are the same ones every bloody time. At some point it stops ebing educational and starts being a sideshow.

Maybe that's what MN should be looking for? People whose threds and comments upset people and get reported frequentlyl?

[ProfessionallyOffendedGoblin]

OK, you can just stand and watch from the sidelines then shiney.
Bring a cushion.