STAND UP AND BE COUNTED AND STOP THE ATTACKS ON SN PARENTS

[4madboys]

ok NOT an aibu, but this is where it will be seen the most and it NEEDS awareness.

quite frankly, i along with others am appalled at the comments that are being made and left to stand, toward the SN community, they are downright offensive and quite simply appalling.

i am sure (or hope) that the majority on here do NOT agree with them but yet the SN community on mn are not being supported, whether this is because people do not know what to say, or they havent seen these posts i do not know?

BUT IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT THINGS CHANGED, so this a thread where you can stand up and be counted and say that you do not agree with the disregard, blatant trolling and offensive behaviour towards our lovely mn who have or are dealing with sn in their family.

they need this place for support, not the vile behaviour that they are getting.

so please post here and show your support and help make a change for the better.

all it takes is a smile next to your name to show you agree :)

I think it would help if MNHQ could look at how they define

a) trolling
b) personal attacks

Because too many seriously offensive posts are being left up due to them not being aimed at specific posters (aimed at groups) or because the poster is who they say they are (just a nasty piece of work).

Should I ever get rich te first thing I am going to do is pay for MRI scans of teh boy's brians, then when people do the whole crap aprenting thing I can shove a photocopy pof any abnormality in their face and tell them to sod off.

And still people will claim otherwise. There was that idiot ages ago on here who actually used simon baron-coehen's words to try and sell teh absolute opposite of what he was saying; ws wrt antenatal testing, baron-Cohen said he wanted a debate ebfore a test was found, whereas posted wanted to now why I ahdn't ahd tests becuase baron-cohen was asking peple to think about it or somesuch.

BTW dittany nice to see you here;I know how many trolls you get in femnism from my brief forays. It does seem feminism is the next big target (Dh found that awful antoi Mn film on youtune the otehr say, no menz allowed. ridiculous)

startafire youa r right about this could be any of us; strangely for amny I think that's the absolute root of their behaviour. If they dehumanise or stigmatoise us as having amde bad choices / being uneducated then theya re sfe and it can't happen to them.

Except it can, one road croissing accident and wam. And after Sn comes along your stats of ebing a single parent too rise hugely- 80% iirc.

Borderlass, yep he/she was! All the while you get items such as that in the news, there is going to be a need for debate. I remember reading also more recently about 'one in five children are put on the SN register because of lazy teachers' type of headline, these things are worth debating.

The othe ting atm is the increasing pervasiveness of the concept of deserving poor. Now I know we would fall into that as OK bt still- it's not as if there is a wealth of evidence showing that poverty is a cycle over generations and hugely impacted on by life experiences way before you are able to amke active choices.

Starta I think wrt to single parents the sort of personality that plays ostrich needs to feel in control to feel safe. If you are with someone you love and can't cope with the truth that the relationship remaining intact is only 50% your call, it would surely be far easier to blame everyone else for their situation than accept that your control over this aspect of your life is shared.

I find that despite being a grad and DH self employed, I often get addressed as if I am on the full range of benefits / not a taxpayer and have been for many years; it's just the fitting-people-into-their-boxes-and-mine-is-different thing at play.

I agree and I am the same about looking for links.

And I think it's not the election so much as fear inspired by the recession. i think that in turn caused a goernment that reflected that to be elected.

Hope it goes well; ds4 started nursery last week , changing times.

It isn't just children. SN adults get a horrible deal from eveyone.

In my local area, a man has an adult son with SN and he clearly still lives at home. He is very child like despite being late 20's and I find him delightful. When he gets on the bus with his dad and sees you in the street, he smiles, waves and says hello. He greets the bus driver and all the bus passengers similarly. So many of the passengers don't answer or look away or even worse say rude things behind his back once he's gone. One of them said "That's all I need" after he'd said hello. I actually asked her what she meant by that and told her to stop being so ignorant, I didn't care.

At the British museum last week, a SN adult was there with a carer. He stood out as he was carrying a very big and very old looking soft toy which he cuddled and occasionaly sucked his thumb while he was cuddling it. He was causing no harm and was walking around the exhibits with his carer and talking to him about them. I saw a group of mothers and children pointing and laughing at him about his toy bunny. I again said something and told them that perhaps their loud, unruly DC's would like to take a leaf out of his book and be quiet instead and screaming and running around a museum. I didn'[t care.

So lets hear it for SN adults too.

True A1980

I think its natural that it's the Sn kids becuase it's a parenting board but I know many of us are aware that our cute cuddly little dcs (mine anyway) will seem a lot less cute and cuddly when they behave the same but are 36 year old men.

A lot of the issues though- such as providing decent education that emans a child ahs adequate supervision or does not need to use all teh teacher's time- will feed through to teh adults too I hope. Those kids will after all grow up.

I know it's a parenting board peachy, but depending on the severity of the SN, some SN children wont really grow up and will lack capacity to deal with their own affairs when they reach majority. THey still seem very child like despite being grown adults.

Has anyone counted the y faces yet?

Be interesting to know how many MNers are standing (or in my case lying down in agony) to be counted.

Why? All it means is that some MNers have felt in the mood for a heavy conversation and clicked the thread, and that some of them think it's a nice gesture to post a smilie, like a facebook chain status or something.

Gah.

I don't want to look like i'm biting your head off, Mousie -you know I think you're lovely- but this posting smilies garbage is ridiculous: it take no thought or attention at all, and doesn't mean anything except provide an opportunity for people to say how nice they are.

If people want to have a think about the whole issue and post their thoughts where relevant, great, but I don't think you can garner any meaningful data from a list of yellow faces.

Not that I'm saying everybody who has posted a smile is an unthinking twerp, but I don't like this self-congratulatory "stand up" thing. Stand up on the bloody thread where somebody is being an arse about SN stuff by all means- but I don't see why the thread could just be a discussion like any other.

Oh I don't know leBof, people's feelings have been really hurt by what is really just a small number of arses. It might be nice to weigh a couple of arses against quite a lot of smiley faces. Don't you think an Arses vs Faces Grandslam and the faces win would cheer people up?

It's just a small gesture, but at least it's goodnatured.

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