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STAND UP AND BE COUNTED AND STOP THE ATTACKS ON SN PARENTS

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4madboys · 11/09/2011 11:39

ok NOT an aibu, but this is where it will be seen the most and it NEEDS awareness.

quite frankly, i along with others am appalled at the comments that are being made and left to stand, toward the SN community, they are downright offensive and quite simply appalling.

i am sure (or hope) that the majority on here do NOT agree with them but yet the SN community on mn are not being supported, whether this is because people do not know what to say, or they havent seen these posts i do not know?

BUT IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT THINGS CHANGED, so this a thread where you can stand up and be counted and say that you do not agree with the disregard, blatant trolling and offensive behaviour towards our lovely mn who have or are dealing with sn in their family.

they need this place for support, not the vile behaviour that they are getting.

so please post here and show your support and help make a change for the better.

all it takes is a smile next to your name to show you agree :)

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Claw3 · 11/09/2011 23:16

Oh yes i forgot to add my Smile

Iamjustthemilkmachine · 11/09/2011 23:25

Dammed phone won't do a smile, can i still be counted?nted?

LeBOF · 11/09/2011 23:32

I'm a bit Confusedat the point of all the smilies though, I have to say. It reminds me of those pointless facebook circulars - post this if you want to raise awareness of somehideousdisease, I bet most people won't be brave enough, blah blah.

Northernlurker · 11/09/2011 23:33

Leningrad - no I think it is pretty general actually. I can't divorce the parent in me from the rest of me. 'Parenting' support is about how I live the whole of my life not just the mothering bit.
I think people do confuse support with agreement though. Sometimes the most useful thing is to see your situation through someone else's eyes. Someone who disagrees with you. An awful lot of posts are made expecting only agreement. I'm as guilty of that as anybody is.

ScrambledSmegs · 11/09/2011 23:44
Smile
ScrambledSmegs · 11/09/2011 23:50

Damn. Didn't refresh for ages and then saw LeBOF's post when I posted. Erm, well I will try, to the best of my knowledge and ability. And I don't do those fb circulars, it's what you do and say in RL that counts. Smiley or no smiley...

LeBOF · 11/09/2011 23:52

Oh, just ignore me- I'm a grumpy fucker Grin

tallwivglasses · 12/09/2011 00:25

What a long thread - just trawled through the lot. Smile

DS's 'special skill' is making a god-awful mess.

wasuup3000 · 12/09/2011 00:38

:v

wasuup3000 · 12/09/2011 00:39

:)

StarlightMcKenzie · 12/09/2011 00:41

"I am often asked to describe the experience of raising a child with autism-to try and help people who have not shared in that unique experience to understand it, to imagine how it would feel. It's like this.."

There you are, happy in your life, one or two little ones at your feet. Life is complete and good. One of the children is a little different than the other but of course, he's like your in-laws, and you did marry into the family. It can't be all that bad. One day someone comes up from behind you and throws a black bag over your head. They start kicking you in the stomach and trying to tear your heart out. You are terrified, kicking and screaming you struggle to get away but there are too many of them, they overpower you and stuff you into a trunk of a car. Bruised and dazed, you don't know where you are. What's going to happen to you? Will you live through this? This is the day you get the diagnosis. "YOUR CHILD HAS AUTISM"!

There you are in Beirut, dropped in the middle of a war. You don't know the language and you don't know what is going on. Bombs are dropping "Life long diagnosis" and "Neurologically impaired". Bullets whiz by "refrigerator mother" " A good smack is all HE needs to straighten up". Your adrenaline races as the clock ticks away your child's chances for "recovery". You sure as heck didn't sign up for this and want out NOW! God has over estimated your abilities.

Unfortunately, there is no one to send your resignation to. You've done everything right in your life, well you tried, well, you weren't caught too often. Hey! you've never even heard of autism before. You look around and everything looks the same, but different. Your family is the same, your child is the same, but now he has a label and you have a case worker assigned to your family. She'll call you soon. You feel like a lab rat dropped into a maze.

Just as you start to get the first one figured out ( early intervention) they drop you into a larger more complex one (school). Never to be out done, there is always the medical intervention maze. That one is almost never completed.

There is always some new "miracle" drug out there. It helps some kids, will it help yours? You will find some if the greatest folks in the world are doing the same maze you are, maybe on another level but a special-ed maze just the same. Tapping into those folks is a great life line to help you get through the day. This really sucks but hey, there are still good times to be had. WARNING! You do develop and odd sense of humor. Every so often you get hit by a bullet or bomb not enough to kill you, only enough to leave a gaping wound. Your child regresses for no apparent reason, and it feels like a kick in the stomach. Some bully makes fun of your kid and your heart aches. You're excluded from activities and functions because of your child and you cry. Your other children are embarrassed to be around your disabled child and you sigh. You're insurance company refuses to provide therapies for "chronic, life long conditions" and your blood pressure goes up. Your arm aches from holding onto the phone with yet another bureaucrat or doctor or therapist who holds the power to improve or destroy the quality of your child's life with the stroke of a pen. You're exhausted because your child doesn't sleep.

And yet, hope springs eternal.

Yes there is hope. There ARE new medications. There IS research going on. There are interventions that help. Thank God for all those who fought so hard before you came along. Your child will make progress. When he speaks for the first time, maybe not until he is 8 yrs old, your heart will soar. You will know that you have experienced a miracle and you will rejoice. The smallest improvement will look like a huge leap to you. You will marvel at typical development and realize how amazing it is. You will know sorrow like few others and yet you will know joy above joy. You will meet dirty faced angels on playgrounds who are kind to your child without being told to be. There will be a few nurses and doctors who treat your child with respect and who will show you concern and love like few others. Knowing eyes will meet yours in restaurants and malls, they'll understand, they are living through similar times. For those people you will be forever grateful. Don't get me wrong. This is war and its awful. There are no discharges and when you are gone someone else will have to fight in your place.

But, there are lulls in wars, times when the bullets aren't flying and bombs aren't dropping. Flowers are seen and picked. Life long friendships are forged. You share and odd kinship with people from all walks of life. Good times are had, and because we know how bad the bad times are, the good times are even better. Life is good but your life in never normal again, but hey, what fun is normal.

StarlightMcKenzie · 12/09/2011 00:41

WELCOME TO BEIRUT by Susan F. Rzucidlo

CardyMow · 12/09/2011 01:13

THAT one is much better than Welcome to Holland. Are they written by the same person? NC BTW. Don't out me, feel like a (fairly) fresh start on here. If anyone from the SN boards wants to know who I am, PM me.

NunTheWiser · 12/09/2011 01:27

I'm amazed at the posters who say they've never seen an anti-SN thread. There are threads started regularly by posters postulating that (for example) ADHD is a made up condition that inadequate parents use as an excuse for being unable to control or discipline their children. Lots of there was no such thing in my day etc. etc.

As a mum of three children with ADHD, none of whom are running around smashing things up or smacking other children, I find these threads so depressing. I don't ask for anyone else to take responsibility for my children, I don't want extra benefits (don't claim any either!). I'd just like MN to stop posters who revel in their ignorance and don't care about fact or who they hurt and offend.

Nibledbyducks · 12/09/2011 02:58

Totally agree regarding ADHD, it's so misunderstood, I actually had the school say that DS2 couldn't have it as he wasn't violent!, never mind the fact he could come up with wonderful ideas but couldn't write them down, and had a reading age 18 months above his chronological age but couldn't read more than half a chapter of a book. They changed their minds when he got medication and they saw the difference :)
ADHD does not mean badly behaved!

AlpinePony · 12/09/2011 07:17

You started this thread because someone called you up on inconsistencies? Confused

If I were running around moaning about e.g., being skint - yet if you knew my mn "persona" you'd know I had a horse wouldn't you have the right to pull me up and suggest I'm being a dick? Or do I get a "get out of jail free" card because I've had mh problems?

Andrewofgg · 12/09/2011 07:36

Starlight I read this and wept, at my office desk moreover. What you go through is inconceivable to those who don't and I can only very humbly wish you well.

Claw3 · 12/09/2011 08:08

I have seen threads for example that ADHD is down to bad parenting or disabled people have a sense of entitlement to things like blue badges or benefits or fast track passess etc. Started because people are ill informed. Although it is not sn parents responsibility to educate these people, i dont think we can expect people who have never experienced disability to just know what we know about disabilities. As a sn parent, even i learn things from these threads and debates.

However, there is no excuse for language such as 'retards' etc, etc and i hope MN would deal with that.

Claw3 · 12/09/2011 08:10

That is the first time i have seen WELCOME TO BEIRUT, its spot on.

Ben10WasTheSpawnNowWeLoveLego · 12/09/2011 08:16

Nibledbyducks Come by and see us on Special Needs:Children. We are very friendly :)

4madboys · 12/09/2011 08:50

sorry alpine i am assuming that was directed at me? i didnt start this thread becasue someone called me up on inconsistencies? whatever that may mean?

i started it because i saw for myself some of the vitriol that the sn posters are dealing with on a daily basis and got chatting to some of them on another thread and thought that this may help raise some awareness.

and i dont get the bit about you having a horse and using mh as a get out of jail card? Confused

anyway lovely to see ladies chatting on here and i like lenins suggestion of ingore a poster facility, we have that on another forum i use, ihavent had to use it yet, but it would def be a good option for those that want it :)

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tallwivglasses · 12/09/2011 08:51

AlpinePony, 'inconsistencies'?

I suggest you re-read the OP.

Claw3 · 12/09/2011 09:07

I thought Alpinepony had posted on the wrong thread Confused

Pagwatch · 12/09/2011 09:09

It didn't make any sense to me tbh. I thought it was just a total misreading of the thread.

4madboys · 12/09/2011 09:11

that would maybe make sense claw3, as i dont understand her post at all? Confused

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