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AIBU?

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to have got married secretly with only 2 witnesses?

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fivecandles · 11/09/2011 08:50

Dp and I been together 13 odd years with ups and downs and 2 children. Decided to get married because really it's about time for all sorts of reasons BUT didn't want a big faff or the expense of a big wedding. Don't like to be the centre of attention, other financial commitments, it's dh's 2nd marriage, we're not religious etc, etc. DH has a very large family and if we'd invited his mum and dad we'd have had to invite his siblings and before you know it we would have had at least 30 people just with close family. So we had a quiet but lovely wedding in register office. DH had his best mate for his witness and I had mine and they brought their families. We then went for a lovely lunch in a nice restaurant and had a lovely day together.

Told our respective families the next day. Mine completely understood and very happy that we're finally respectable and legal. DH's horribly upset and accused us of being deceitful (because we didn't tell them beforehand) and so on. DH had long conversation with them which was very heated in places but reached a sort of resolution even if it was an agreement to differ sort of thing.

Now they've not spoken to me at all although they did send a card and a little bit of money a few weeks after the event. I sent them some photos and the only contact I've had with them directly is now a letter from MIL saying how happy we look in the photos and how upset this makes her!! She has been showing the photos to all her friends and they're also really upset apparently. She's told dh about how she's been crying for days and not sleeping and one of dh's siblings has written to say similar things.

Anway, having said nothing and hoped it would all blow over, I've felt moved to write back to MIL to remind them that a wedding is a happy occasion and ask them to put aside their negative views and be happy for us and respect our choices. AIBU???

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Ifancyashandy · 11/09/2011 11:20

I would get married similarly to you but would probably have both sets of parents as witnesses - telling them we were taking them to lunch and then springing the wedding surprise on them on the day. But I totally see why you did what you did and ultimately, your choice.

However, there are consequences - and you may just have to accept she is upset and there is nothing you can do about it. Even if you apologised (which I don't think you should), she would still be upset. She is entitled to be - not because she missed her sons wedding per say, more that anyone is entitled to feel the way they do - we can't dictate how other would or should respond.

So, accept you can't change the situation, smile and be nice and don't expect them to change their feelings. Stop expecting them to 'welcome' you, carry on as normal and refuse to be drawn on it. I'd say 'we're clearly never going to agree on this - perhaps for all our sakes, we should try and put it behind us'. Even though you probably don't want to put your wedding day 'behind' you, on the face of it you may have to when with IL's for the greater good.

Eventually it'll all come good and you'll all move on.

HughJarseJr · 11/09/2011 11:20

id be devastated if i wasnt invited to my son's wedding, really hurt and upset

but at the end of the day its his choice

LadyMontdore · 11/09/2011 11:21

OP - I think you need to understand the difference between 'we are sorry they are upset' and 'we are sorry that we upset them'.
Just tell them you are really sorry to have uspet them so much and you would have invited them if you'd known how much it would have meant to them. It's the kind thing to say, even you don't really mean it.
Still think you didn't ask them because you don't like them, and that's why they are upset. No one who really loved their parents, or appreciated that their dh loved his parents would deliberatley exclude them in such a selfish way.

fivecandles · 11/09/2011 11:21

They didn't even phone when I emailed them to tell them that dd was in hospital. In fact they didn't contact us at all after we told them about our wedding and didn't reply to my messages. I urged dh to phone them because we'd heard from his sister that they were upset and the first thing they said to him was about how they hadn't been sleeping etc etc.

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gigglepin · 11/09/2011 11:23

Hi fivecandles, we did this and it worked very well.
We told people the week before though and said if they wanted to come, fine, but that we would meet them in the pub for a drink afterwards.

The place was packed out and we got about £1k in gift vouchers, completely unexpected and lovely!
I hired a frock, dh wore his only suit. We didnt go away as we were skint from just bying our house a month before.

It was brill Grin Dont think any one was offended at all.

Psammead · 11/09/2011 11:25

OP, would you rather MIL lie to you and say things were all tickety-boo?

fivecandles · 11/09/2011 11:25

I actually think your post is quite unpleasant, LadyM. You're right that there is a differnce between we are sorry they are upset and we are sorry that we upset them. We didn't intend to upset them. We cannot control their reactions, that is up to them. As for not liking them, you have no right to say that and it's not true. Can I remind you my own parents whom I am extremely close to chose a very different reaction? They absolutely understood and were thrilled both that we'd got married and that we'd chosen a wedding which was low key.

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HughJarseJr · 11/09/2011 11:26

The first thing dh's parents said to him was 'we're very upset' and not 'congratulations'. They haven't actually congratulated me at all.

i dont think i would say congrats either if my son didnt invite me to his wedding

it wouldnt be sincere so why say it

i dont understand why if you didnt want a big fuss, your organise it all in secret, then the day before tell them and invite them - just the parents no one else, how would that have hurt you?

HughJarseJr · 11/09/2011 11:26

We didn't intend to upset them.

no you just didnt care

Ladypunk · 11/09/2011 11:27

Do you know what? Fuck 'em. It's your wedding and and you should do what you damn well like. Your family should support you in whatever you do with this, and are being unreasonable if they don't.

I HATE it when people still their noses into wedding plans!

CardyMow · 11/09/2011 11:27

OMG! Did your DH have to dissuade them from doing so? Or did they decide against that themselves? I don't think the OP could have done anything differently. The MIL would ONLY have been happy if the OP had had a massive wedding and invited the whole family. Anything else just wouldn't have been acceptable to the MIL. So the OP's only options were to either make her MIL happy (enabling her controlling behaviour, and ignoring her OWN wishes), or to have the wedding SHE wanted, and expect her MIL to behave like a grown-up.

The OP has stated that she has tried to apologise, has written to the MIL, has said that she is sorry that her MIL is feeling hurt, what more can she do?? The OP DID NOT hurt the MIL, the MIL is choosing to be hurt rather than happy. The OP didn't think - 'oh, how can I plan my wedding to upset my MIL' (which would have been to hurt the MIL), she thought - 'How can I have the wedding I want' (which was to make herself happy). That is NOT 'hurting' the MIL, the MIL has decided to feel hurt over the fact that the OP did what the OP wanted, not what the MIL wanted or was expecting.

fivecandles · 11/09/2011 11:28

Psammead, it's about choosing your words isn't it. If you'd read the thread you'd know I said if they could have said look, we're happy for you and congratulations but we're sorry that you didn't invite us that would have been one thing. I'm not the only one who things that ranting and raving and threatening not to speak to us was perhaps not hte most appropriate response.

A reminder again that dh and I are in our 40s and have been together for 13 years.

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fivecandles · 11/09/2011 11:30

It's also about what you do then isn't it? We've heard out the MILs so don't know what good comes of carrying on with how upset they are. At some point it would be nice if they could accept that the fact that we're married and happy about it is more important about the sort of wedding we chose.

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fivecandles · 11/09/2011 11:31

'no you just didnt care'

FFS, would I be on here now if I didn't care. Where do you get off making a comment like that? I care deeply about my parents and my in laws.

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avoider · 11/09/2011 11:31

Totally understand your reasons but think it can be very hurtful to parents. I know a couple of other people who did this (we were the witnesses at one) and both times parents were really upset.

I think it's humiliating for them to have to tell their friends and relations that you've got married and they weren't invited. And not something their generation would have done.

Having said that, they'll get over it. Congratulations!

Ifancyashandy · 11/09/2011 11:32

There is an awful lot of projection on this thread!

stripeybump · 11/09/2011 11:32

Your communications with your in-laws sound very odd - you emailed them to tell them your DD was in hospital and are annoyed that they didn't call you? Why didn't you call them?

From what little I know of you and the way you treat your DH's parents, I'm not surprised they have a low opinion of you.

CardyMow · 11/09/2011 11:32

And WHY should the OP have to invite family if she doesn't want to? It's not as if the OP's parents were there and the IL's had been left out. THAT I could understand the MIL being upset about.

HughJarse Jr - so you wouldn't be happy that your dc had got the wedding THEY wanted? I would be, even if I wasn't there. It wouldn't be MY wedding, after all. You think you have a right as a parent to expect your dc to do what makes YOU happy rather than what will make THEM happy? Because I couldn't be like that - my dc's happiness matters most to me!

fivecandles · 11/09/2011 11:33

Hugharse, there are various reasons why we didn't do that some of which I've explained already. One is the in laws and my parents live over 200 miles away from each other. The other is if the in laws had come they would have then been deeply upset and offended if we hadn't invited the siblings and then the aunts, uncles and cousins. It would have snowballed. We wanted a small low-key wedding. Our wedding, our choice.

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fivecandles · 11/09/2011 11:34

'I HATE it when people still their noses into wedding plans!'

Love your post LadyPunk.

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fivecandles · 11/09/2011 11:35

Exactly, Louldass. Once again. You put things better than I do.

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Psammead · 11/09/2011 11:35

Well, maybe they are not happy for you.

Maybe the reason they are not saying their approved lines is because they do not approve of how you acted. I am not saying they are right in this disapproval, but if it's how they feel, why should they dress it up to sound all nice and reasonable? To make you feel better?

fivecandles · 11/09/2011 11:37

stripeybump, are you always so judgemental. Read your last post back. Can you see how nasty it is?

FWIW, my in laws don't have a low opinion of me. What a very unpleasnt assumption to make.

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CardyMow · 11/09/2011 11:37

What's wrong with emailing people to let them know something? And if she isn't treating her DH's parents any differently from the way she treats her own, then what on earth is the problem? Why would you treat your IL's any differently from your own parents (except in my case, where I would try to treat them better, as my own mother is very narcissistic and I refuse to enable her behaviour).

fivecandles · 11/09/2011 11:39

Me too about my kids Loudlass. I might not be delighted if they ran off with someone they'd just met at 16 but in their 40s I'd really hope they would be capable of making their own choices and whatever makes them happy will make me happy.

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