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To request that a child repairs or replaces something they broke?

154 replies

PiousPrat · 31/08/2011 13:05

I'll keep this as brief as I can. Quick background, we (DS1, DS2 and I) have just moved in with DP in an area he has lived in for a while but we are new to. We don't really know anyone round here. DS2 has made a few new friends. One of these friends is 15, so 5 years older than DS2, and has some sort of SEN.

This older child, who I will call J for clarity, doesn't seem to have the greatest home life, he often mentions not being able to play football in the garages at the end of the road if his step dad is home. Several of the other local kids seem to taunt him if he is out on his own.

J was round yesterday playing with DS2 in the garden. I had had to say J couldn't come in to play as we are still living in amongst the chaos of moving boxes so there really isn't the space. Our BBQ is stored by the side door which is where J was waiting if DS2 came in for anything. After the DC had gone to bed last night, DP went out the side door for a fag and came back in to say that the shelf at the front of the BBQ was hanging off and that must have been what DS2 meant when he had overheard him asking J earlier if he had fixed it.

The BBQ was new this year and has only been used twice and is now trashed. I spoke to DS2 about it this morning and he said that J had tried to sit on the shelf while waiting for him. I know the shelf can take DS2's weight as I have sat him on it before (he is small for 10 and undergoing assessment to see if there is a medical reason for it) so ido believe him when he says it was J sitting on it that broke it.

Obviously I read DS2 the riot act about respect for things and the importance of owning up when something has broken, rather than leave people to later discover their possessions are trashed and have told him that because he knew it was broken and didn't say anything, he is now responsible for either helping J fix it or paying half towards a replacement.

My dilemma comes in what to do about J's half. I know where he lives so can go round and speak to his parents, or I can speak to him when he inevitably calls round again later,but I'm not sure of which way would be best. If I speak to him, I can imagine him being worried about telling his parents due to the issues with his step dad and I don't want to cause him undue worry, but don't think he should dodge his responsibilities either. If I go round, I still run the risk of getting J into trouble for what was an accident as well as the worry of going round to a strangers house, in an area I am new to and is a bit...deprived and so £40 for his share of the damage would be considered a lot of money, while I am 38 weeks pregnant.

I don't feel I can just let it go, as it isn't so much about the actual damage as the cover up of it and I feel it is an important lesson for DS2 (as well as J) that if you break something of someone else's, you own up and try to make good on it. DP can't go round (even though at 6'2" and a rugby player build I would feel more confident sending him than lugging my 5'4" bloated self round) as he is self employed, so doing masses of extra work this week to free himself up for being at home from next week when DS3 arrives. By the time he gets home at night it is too antisocial an hour to go door knocking and I don't think it would get things off to a good start.

AIBU to expect J to stump up for at least half of a replacement if I suspect that it would get him into a disproportionate amount of trouble for it, or that his family might struggle to afford it?

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FigsAndWine · 31/08/2011 18:39

I read your OP and thought that you were BVVVVU, for all the reasons given on this thread. I think your OP came across very badly, and I don't think you should have even considered making a SN 15 yr old (by your own description more akin to a 10 yr old) pay you £40 for an accident.

But your last posts were well thought out and explained, and I think you handled the situation really really well. Smile

ll31 · 31/08/2011 20:01

can't believe you'd even consider asking him to pay for it. particularly given his home circumstances. You let your son sit on it so it would seem reasonable that his friends could also sit on it. Think you are being unreasonable.

Pagwatch · 31/08/2011 20:03
BecauseImWorthIt · 31/08/2011 20:04
Shock

I hope you've got enough pocket money to buy a new BBQ, Pag.

Pagwatch · 31/08/2011 20:06

I am going to fashion something from a love baton and bits of broken vase. It will be fine

warthog · 31/08/2011 20:10

ywbu,

but you've handled it well now. best not start a thread in aibu in a hurry, without the usual disclaimers and background info. Smile

Hullygully · 31/08/2011 20:11

I haven't even got a bbq shelf. How deprived am I?

I have got a rather horrid vase.

kitbit · 31/08/2011 20:23

Yep, steaming round there and insisting on £40 is definitely the way to go to make friends and ensure your ds's acceptance in a new area. Hmm

Let it go fgs, they are kids and it was an accident. Speak to your son about owning up quickly if you must, but if you want him to have friends and if you don't want to make this lad's life any harder, ease up a bit.

Maryz · 31/08/2011 20:37

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AitchTwoOh · 31/08/2011 20:44

good result, pious.

LadyBeagleEyes · 31/08/2011 20:45

Yes Maryz, why does that happen?
There was a thread yesterday where the Op must have come on about three times and agreed she'd BU.
And actually ended up having a sense of humour about the whole thing.
But people kept posting after the event, why don't people read the thread?

Maryz · 31/08/2011 20:51

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ShirleyKnot · 31/08/2011 21:26

Sorry for saying that this would be a YABU, NO I'M BLOODY NOT! thread.

I think you handled it just right in the end.

defineme · 31/08/2011 21:30

I retract my 'lacking in class/unbecoming' comments! You sound lovely Smile

If I feel overwhelmed by kids off the street traipsing in and out I have to repeat (in my head) 'It's my house and I'm in charge'. Then I shoo them out without giving reasons/excuses, just a cheerful/brisk 'right time to go'.
|As I said before I do tend to limit it to the garden now. I'm not cruel-I hand out ice pops and biscuits on a regular basis.

jasper · 31/08/2011 21:34

good result, OP

jasper · 31/08/2011 21:36

defineme, I am going to adopt your motto Smile

Spuddybean · 31/08/2011 22:02

I think YABU - as someone else said i would ask anyone who broke something in my house to replace it. (as long as it was an accident)

I remember as a child a lot of parents of friends (who had very differing parenting styles to my parents) imposing their values on me for my 'benefit'. But in retrospect i think it was for them to justify their ott behaviour with their kids.

One particular incident which i still remember and Blush was when i was 14 and staying at a friends house. I did a poo which didn't flush (i thought it had but it must have 'reappeared') and my friends dad called me and the whole family (her older brother too) into the loo and showed everyone. He said he knew it was mine as none of 'his' children would leave something like that and the reason he was pointing it out was so i learned a lesson not to leave toilets unflushed!! I burst into tears out of shame an never had much of a friendship with her after - it was totally weird and as an adult i am irritated that someone could make me feel this way.

My point is, i suppose, that if he doesn't have many friends, he may really value his new friendship and the thought of upsetting you may be more distressing than the 'value' of the shelf or the 'lesson' you are teaching him.

Anyway - i just thought i would share that embarrassing story with you! i think it was cathartic to get it off my chest!

Inertia · 31/08/2011 22:05

PP sounds like you handled it all in a fair and reasonable way- and , importantly, one that both boys will take a couple of lessons from. One, that it's best to own up to accidents; and two, actually there are consequences to actions- even though the bbq couldn't be fixed , they've both attempted to repair the damage, and I bet they'll remember that much more than a row about the cost.

Glad to hear that you're rethinking the policy of sitting children on barbecues though :)

Spuddybean · 31/08/2011 22:07

apologies - for some reason i only saw the 1st 3 pages of this thread. So my confession was totally unnecessary Blush

alls well that ends well. seems a good result.

HipHopOpotomus · 31/08/2011 22:45

It was an accident and I think it wld be outrageous for you to go around there esp if you suspect it might cause some problems for this boy.

I quite Shocked by your whole post/attitude really!

MrsHairyWhitemouse · 31/08/2011 22:57

I love a happy ending!

BillComptonstrousers · 31/08/2011 23:12

Am bad laughing at Spuddybeans 'massive shit in someone elses toilet and it came back to haunt me' confession...

.....and she didn't even need to tell us all Grin

LoopyLoopsPussInBoots · 31/08/2011 23:26

Ah, I'm so glad to see you back Hully, the love had almost run dry completely.

SuzanneJS · 01/09/2011 01:18

If you'd asked J not to sit on it and he ignored you then that's a different matter, you say he has SEN, he may have seen your 10yo sitting on it and saw nothing wrong in doing so. Knowing he has SEN and with the age gap maybe you should take some responsibility for not supervising them at play until you got to know a little bit more about J.
YUABU and you should put this down to a bad experience.

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