to laugh at david cameron?

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He has only been in government about 1 year, the economy has flatlined and already there are riots and looting in the streets! He doesnt listen, and just gets everything so wrong!

It would be absolutely hilarious, if only the consequences weren't so tragic.

But I need a good laugh, so AIBU?

Seriously - you and your children were used as human shields by thieves.

omg do you really believe that.
talk about sucked in, he is conning you and you fell for it.

No - you are conned. You believe these people don't exist. Or you believe they aren't bad people really. There's always an excuse. Only "rich" people are bad. Only taxpayers are bad. The taxpayers who don't want to pay theives and liars - they're just ghastly aren't they. Scammers and scroungers and liars aren't bad, they must be needy, or deprived of love -- or some such. You've bought the whole package with a fried egg on top.

disgusting awful man.

Blueberties, how rude and patronising you are. Maybe you need to take your blinkers off, something permanently fixated on a tory face, ime. You clearly only see what you want to see. Like other tories I know.

It has been established that fraudulent claims for DLA are less than 1%. So the cuts to that are going to mean that people with a genuine case get theirs cut unfairly / when they actually NEED it. It has also been suggested that these proposed cuts breach the human rights act. DLA is very difficult to claim and you need the support of a doctor.

The tories don't give a stuff about the vulnerable in society, and what's more they never pretended to either. So don't make out that they had no choice - this is their brand of politics whatever finiancial situation the UK has.

I'm not rude - I was told I'd been conned so I said it back. You just don't like "my side" so it sounds ruder.

Thank goodness - I took my blinkers off last year

It's been established? by whom, when they're still in the middle of checking people and deeming most of them fit for work?

The stress is showing on him - his big hammy forehead is staring to get a few creases in it, like streaky bacon!

oh and the fact with coulson 'he believed in giving second chances'

different story for the riots tho

We seem to luuuurv the rioters on this thread.

Er, who's it been established by? The DWP, that's who.

And yes, your response to 2shoes was extremely rude as I recall;

'blame the scroungers who made you a target' - in other words 'I don't give a fuck about how people like you are affected by a policy that is, unfair' nice

You're talking bolleaux as well - suggesting that anyone who thinks a benefit that people NEED should be in place are also apologists for criminals and fraudsters. You sound awfully bitter

If that's cases taken to court, guilty convictions, it's not surprising there's a disparity between that figure and the number of people now being taken off the benefit.

It's true - scammers made disabled people a target - if every claim was genuine no one would want to take their money away.

I support increased help for elderly people, disabled people and their carers. But if campaigners for disabled people want to throw in their lot with the fraudsters -- fair enough I can't stop them but I won't support it.

And a lot of people DON'T need it. Talk about blinkered. Ever had a middle class conversation about people putting their autism DLA in a saver account? I doubt it. Ever read on here about people "blagging" (not my words - a direct quote from a dad) extra money for a dx?

And what do you know about the need for DLA - and who is a genuine case and who is not? Are you a doctor specialising in such cases? You don't sound informed - you sound like you are repeating urban myths you have heard.

If you had a child with autism yourself, you might understand how much of a disability it actually is.

My daughter won't ever be able to work, she is disabled. She is 9 and can't even get dressed by herself. Here's a video made by a mum in the US whose son has autism and is severly disabled. It really angers me when people try to say that it's some insignificant quirk that doesn't particularly affect people's lives. There is no excuse for such ignorance.

Blueberties it must be so nice living in your perfect tory world, with your disgusting bigoted attitude and total lack of empathy, you totally sum up the conservatives (your not DC by any chance, are you?)

So why do you defend people who use real disability to blag benefit - thus leading DLA to be questioned? Why would you do that? I'd hate the people who do that. How dare they.

Well put, applecrumble.

Most people claiming DLA are not blagging - it's that simple. This has been widely reported and came from the DWP. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

So, Blueberties what are your solutions? You have a lot of gripes: what are the answers?

Or should we just trust the politicians to know best?

I reckon bb is daftpunk. Same style of ranting posting

I am probably not far from being an ASD specialist- 2 kids with, 1 being diagnosed with, one dissertation away from an MA in Autism.

So probably not unaware.

of course chidlren with ASD- some of them, MANy of them need DLA.

My kids attend special schools; that does not happen if a child's needs can be met by the MS schools and that COSTS

Caring for the boys COSTS- significantly in my potential earnings which as a grad who used to manage a charity branch would be I hope enough to cover bills.

no DLA = no Carer's Allowance.

ds1 needs 1-1 support all his waking hours (so until midnight each day), ds3 is a rare presentation of autism, he is almost the stereotype (as opposed tor elaity) of DS in fact, in your face, huggy, constantly at 100% with a functional age several years behind.

DS4 is quite close to stereotype: screams if given his food with wrapper opened wrong, eats very little etc etc etc (not planning oon claiming DLA for him unless ds1 loses his as for us we are able to cover needs as we are).

Yes of course I don't plan any more.

I can't work- no CM can take the boys as

A) ds1 is violent
B) ther SN taxi drops off the same time as the local schools kick out and the CMs don not come with a magical ability to be in two places at once.

I'd love a job that fits around the schools and will hopefully be back in work when DH is able to work from home in a year and take over chidlcare, but until then our lives and finances have been decimated by disability. I realised today that I have not spoken to another adult in weeks, and won't for a few more; longest period I ever had this was IIRC 10 weeks, just can't get out with boys alone over summer.

Did ahve an interview for researcher post at council last eyar: was half term, DH had a crucial exam and no childcare so-

I would never defend the scrotes that claim DLA wrongly but it's as if DC wants them to thrive- the ATOS tests do not utilise medical history or specialists, they go on a half hour visit: Mr OOh Me Back will fly through, someone with a bit of misplaced dignity ot invisible disbaility will be stuffed! And tehn what? JSA- with compulsory attendance at work aplcement. Can't so that ebcuase of disability- sorry no true you failed ATOS- we are stopping all your benefits for 3 months as penance.....

We in the support community are already seeing this. It will get worse.
There is a huge risk of homelessness and yes even death to the vulnerable people ATOS get wrong. So what did the Government do?

Cancel legal aid for benefit purposes.

Stats last time I checked were that 30% of ATOS decisions were overturned at appeal, 70% plus if a legal advisor or advocate taken along.

At the moment due to ASD we are at risk of losing our home, my marriage to my beloved DH is in crisis through simple exhaustion and lack of ANY time together- he studies FT and runs his own business- and I have had to cancel ds2's beloved sunsidised drum lessons at a huge saving of £125 per eyar (subsidised for all, not low income famillies and if it was we would not qualify, we do not for free emals etc). His drums were therapy for his weak wrists (dyspraxia), it's no biggie when next thing to stop is heating but still makes me feel like shit.

Autism is a bastard: it wrecks lives and affects anyone, DH and I were amongst the hard workers- DH still is of course though not exactly highly paid. Every time we feel we get anywhere we're straight back- got through the boy's dx's and started my won related business: ds4 failed his developmental checks. i;d gladly give my leg- likely both- for the boys to not need their DLA but I can't do that so we do.

And if we did not get DLA and crucially Carer's the rent would not be met (lost our house years and years ago through a redundancy related DH's illnes which was exghaution caused by what we now know is ds1's ASD but thought then was just normal toddler behaviour!). So we'd be in a homeles sunit, the asd boys in foster (as they could not access the unit), then council housing costing a massive amount financially and in terms of reduced life outcomes for the boys. DS3 might be severe enough to be - as people lovingly term- an 'economic write off' but ds1 is quite the opposite, a proper little entrepreneur, and i would ahte to see his confidence and chances affected even more.

Popel being taken off benefit- ATOS assess in a way that is contrary to the very diagnostic definition of ASD: plenty of people might be hiding from assessment but very many are scared of people in their homes, being judged, the process.

My mate is a war vet with a bullet wound, wheelchair, severe combat stress and someone reported him as a false claimant; the DLA peeps know otherwise, plenty of army records and the like but still it has taken them a year to rpocess with no answer or money yet......... he is now too scared to leave home in case someone thinks he is a faker. Great system huh?

I was wondering what posters might make of this:

"According to the Department of Work and Pensions (DWP), the annual cost of payments made through the disability living allowance (DLA) has soared from £4.5 billion in 1997 to almost £10 billion last year, making it the most costly state benefit apart from pensions and tax credits.
When Labour came to power in May 1997, 1.9 million people received DLA. By last November, the number of claimants had risen to 2.85 million.
Criminals are estimated to defraud the DLA, which is intended to help the handicapped pay for care and remain mobile, of £1 billion a year - more than a third of all benefit fraud. Able-bodied criminals target the DLA because, in many cases, they only have to fill in one form before they start receiving payments".

So why do you defend these people? You criticise the people who pay for your benefit more than the people who bring it into disrepute?

Why do you do that? Why?

"disgusted and bigoted" - that's really childish

I've seen more of the world than you I suppose - Labour born and bred - certainly had the scales taken from my eyes on that front.

Oh and before anyone asks:

Yes I am OK, bad day, another step in dds4's assessment today, big talk with dh last night and generally exhausted as holidays = shattered

No, no professional warned us about risk of ASD; ds3 was born before ds1 diagnosed anyway, ds4 we thought was OK until recently

Yes all babies conceived / born with employment etc etc etc

No my MA isn't full time so not needing any childcare input and therefore not instead of work, after year one (3 hours a week uni) I had nobody at all to care so I did independent study for year 2. A relative pays, far less costs than people think PT, but I have nobody in this country who can help practically.

Just before they get bunged at me is all

Now going to make some stuffed peppers for tea.