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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to laugh at david cameron?

340 replies

ChickenLickn · 14/08/2011 21:42

He has only been in government about 1 year, the economy has flatlined and already there are riots and looting in the streets! He doesnt listen, and just gets everything so wrong!

It would be absolutely hilarious, if only the consequences weren't so tragic.

But I need a good laugh, so AIBU?

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Inertia · 16/08/2011 23:01

I wish I could laugh.

Unfortunately there are too many people who will suffer under his policies- the already poor, people with disabilities, single parents- for it to be funny, no matter how much of a cock-up he makes of it all. Cuts are being made, and privatisation of the health and education systems pushed through, under the guise of a convenient recession. Meanwhile, the only non-negotiable point in Gideon's financial plans is tax cuts for the very rich.

Sadly, Labour doesn't provide a viable alternative. Miliband looks out of his depth, and seems to be just holding the fort until the next inevitable election defeat, whereupon somebody else will take over . New Labour was just Thatcherism-lite, it was still very much a capitalist-minded government with them in charge- look where that got us. They could have been regulating the banks etc much more tightly , but chose not to. They wasted a lot of public money by insisting on things like PFI even when things could have been done more efficiently under LA systems- the public at large didn't benefit, private companies and consultancy firms did. It's a shame that the good work that was done in repairing some of the Thatcher devastation will only be remembered for the wasteful management processes that accompanied it. Under the Tories, even more public money will be siphoned off to private businesses- I think we're misguided to think that some magically efficient golden age will return.

Clegg has ensured that nobody will ever trust the Lib Dems again. Which is a shame, as they had some appealing policies (ditched now, obviously). And Cable seems to have at least some idea about economic policy .

Clearly DC managed to avoid ever getting caught or arrested for any Bullingdon rampages, which could mean that he genuinely wasn't there and wasn't involved. I've yet to find any quotes in which he categorically denies that the reported damage never happened, and that he was absolutely never involved which any group with deliberately caused damage. He appears to be trying very hard to extricate himself from the NI shenangins too.

The man seems to be all about how things look and presenting himself in the shiniest light, not about how to make things work.

Inertia · 16/08/2011 23:05

Sorry:

never involved with any group which deliberately caused damage.

MaMattoo · 16/08/2011 23:34

YANBU dc is smug, shiny and getting his way. Once in power do as you please. Little Nicki has shut up and sat in a corner. Ed Milliband can't impress (I think he looks a bit like Wallace from Wallace and grommit). Rich people are rarely impacted by political or economic turmoil. And he along with his cronies is not any different. When you stop crying you can only laugh at the absurdity of it all. When health, education, income and safety are all going downhill it makes you wonder why you live here at all.
I don't like Blair, did not care much for brown, but this smug ass makes my blood boil!

ChickenLickn · 17/08/2011 00:03

He has reached absurd levels of incompetence!

David "Mr Bean" Cameron!

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LineRunner · 17/08/2011 01:12

He is extremely clever to have got where he is and to have stayed where he is.

It's CoulsonGate that will get him.

Because there IS such a thing as too clever by half.

organicgardener · 17/08/2011 01:16

He's got to make cuts.

Labour and in particular Blair was disgusting.

All politicians i've seen/met seem to be self serving scavengers.

But Cameron can't be blamed solely for our financial mess.

TalkinPeace2 · 17/08/2011 12:12

Linerunner
I think you are right.
Not running security checks (because he knew he'd fail) on somebody with access to cabinet papers is an error that even the establishment won't forgive him for.

electra · 17/08/2011 21:42

edam speaks a great deal of sense!

smallwhitecat · 17/08/2011 22:16

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TalkinPeace2 · 17/08/2011 22:37

smallwhitecat
I jokingly called you Sam above.
Now I know you are.
Give it up.
If David reckons the comments about the Bullingdon Club are libellous - bearing in mind that Oxford University no longer accept it as a valid club - then he can sue.
But they are not and he wont because he WAS and IS an upper class twit and knows that silence is the only way to maintain any semblance of dignity.

edam · 17/08/2011 22:46

Rubbish SWC. I didn't libel Cameron. I said he was a hypocrite. That's not libel especially when directed at a politician, fgs! (Am struggling to think of anyone who could successfully bring a libel case over being described as a hypocrite - the Dalai Lama, perhaps?)

edam · 17/08/2011 22:47

And btw Cameron has previously admitted he's embarrassed by the Bullingdon Club and said he 'regrets' what they got up to.

adamschic · 17/08/2011 23:45

Posts on mumsnet, if they are libellous, are the property of mumsnet (not the individual poster) so the site would be sued, along with the many other sites that have quoted the quote.

A particularly horrible facebook friend of an acquaintance posted about starting some new riots this weekend. Although it was a joke in the absence of a Grin who knows. Perhaps I should have reported him and got him a 4 year sentence. Don't like him anyway.

sundayrose10 · 17/08/2011 23:58

I so approve of this thread. I hate the box head wanker.

adamschic · 18/08/2011 00:05

Talkinpeace, you did get me going as I actually thought that SWC might have been Sam. Lets face it, love is blind and if your wife cannot defend you then who can. So an easy mistake Grin

Sundayrose, Hiya.

issynoko · 18/08/2011 00:31

I did a lot of stupid shit when I was younger that I would shudder to think of my kids doing, although they probably will. Which of us went through teen and early 20s trying to be clean as a whistle just in case the media had cause to jeer later. Have no time for all that. Also, anyone who thinks the reason for society's problems lies with the current government is embarrassingly thick. Problems build up over time, in this case the materialism of Thatcher's years through the irresponsible nannying and spending of Blair/Brown to the knee jerk reactions of Cameron etc. All administrations play their part - for the improvements and the failures. I don't find Cameron as smug as I found Blair. But that's nothing to do with party politics. If anyone really thinks all the problems of today were created in the last year....stupid beyond belief.

smallwhitecat · 18/08/2011 20:25

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edam · 18/08/2011 20:54

the point is that the Bulllingdon club revelled in causing criminal damage. Breaking windows, trashing restaurants, causing havoc. They were proud of it. Boris was fined, IIRC, for his part in some criminal damage. And now they have the cheek to be sanctimonious about 'the youth of today' doing pretty much what they did and demand that people are banged up for trivial crimes such as stealing a few sticks of chewing gum or a bottle of water. Rank hypocrisy.

Blueberties · 18/08/2011 20:57

are you allowed to condemn the riots if you weren't in the Bullingdon club?

Blueberties · 18/08/2011 21:00

I mean, does the existence of the Bullingdon club justify the riots?

smallwhitecat · 18/08/2011 21:02

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Blueberties · 18/08/2011 21:17

I thought everyone on mn was a journo except ironically the ones that say fuck and shite all the time.

applecrumbleandcream · 18/08/2011 21:47

This country is going down the pan and no mistake. DC and the rest of his cronies are all living on another planet, the majority of them have come from privileged backgrounds - they're not worried how they're going to pay their rising fuel bills this winter or how they can stretch a £30 budget on food to last a family for a week. They are all selfish and out for themselves - even the Labour politicians - I have never voted for them since the expenses scandal - I thought they were a bunch of thieves and liars then who should have all be imprisoned and I still do!!

Even on here there is a smugness and a sense of 'I'm all right Jack, now pull up the ladder". The gap between rich and poor is widening and under this government it is only getting wider and wider - from next year they are pricing out students from less well off families from having a university education, making it a privilege for the rich families.

Apart from the above, DC has a smug, shiny face you just feel like punching.

edam · 18/08/2011 22:17

they = the subject of the sentence. Oddly enough.

SWC, well done you, you've managed to work out something I've only mentioned, ooh, hundreds of times in the eight years I've been on here. Along with scores of other posters. In fact back when it were all fields round here, about 50% of the posters were journalists (probably a function of the founders being journalists).

Blueberties · 18/08/2011 22:34

It's been going down the pan for years. You don't ruin education in a year. You don't breed an amoral generation unafraid of sanction in a year.

Thanks Labour.