to laugh at david cameron?

[ChickenLickn]

He has only been in government about 1 year, the economy has flatlined and already there are riots and looting in the streets! He doesnt listen, and just gets everything so wrong!

It would be absolutely hilarious, if only the consequences weren't so tragic.

But I need a good laugh, so AIBU?

There haven't ever been many state school PMs - Wilson Heath Thatcher Major. That's about it. I'm not sure schooling is the be all and end all.

Can't we just laugh at him for what he does right now?

How many hoodies do you think he's hugged since he came back from his hols?

I think he's hugged less hoodies than he's invested in just for men...the white sides of his hair seems to have vanished.....!

Totally agree with Glackley - was just about to post similar thoughts! It is ridiculous and unhealthily hateful to blame it all on one person, let's see at least what he now comes up with, that will be a test, he didn't have time yet for any radical reforms (or for plans becoming reality). I'm not his fan, but he's not worse than the others who were in hte running. Let's just see. Still, the issues are so deep, and been buiilding up for so long (at least since Thatcher), that it's much easier to hate someone for not solving it fast, than to suggest solutions! Glackley is spot on that the issues are global, and the moral collapse is not an easy issue (how on earth do you change the situation with lone teenage parents - forbid sex?, not give benefits/council flats just because they have children, so to encourage abortions? not acceptable...) This country is not industrial anymore, so there are no jobs that used to exist - it's no one's fault, or blame the greedy businessmen who produce everything cheaply in China! ha..but we all like cheap prices for clothes etc (much more affordable to everyone than they ever used to be) - so yes, greed is all consuming! I blame the media most - they are seriuosly evil, playing on people's base instincts to make huge bucks, and developing the envy mentality. Why do they need to publish what exactly rich people's homes are worth etc - just to ignite hate? I also can't stand rich criminals, but some of the rich worked bloody hard to get there from modest backgrounds. Those evil news of the world people (who I agree should ve been stopped by government long ago) are worse than anyone we aer discussing. But to find solutions to all this now - not any one man can do it! it will take time and lots of wise people together, Cameron is not especially bright but he does listen, they all have no choice but to listen now. Maybe education system has to adjust to more practical training vs academic - they are discussing it already.

I laugh at the Tory voters who came on here to say that their new government would show us how it should be done. I expect they are too busy trying to find the money for their next meal to post now.

It quickly went from 'this will teach those lazy benefit claimants a lesson' to "hang on... no I didn't mean my tax credits should go!"

Of course the Labour government DID leave the country in a mess. We shouldn't forget that. They were a bunch of incompetents out for their own profit too.

One problem with Conservatives is that keeping the wealth in the hands of those that 'deserve' it IS their policy. They don't do it by accident and those not in the elite who still voted for them were being very foolish. There's only room on the gravy train for a limited number and just voting Tory didn't get them a ticket as they thought it would.

Onagar - I voted Tory and feel none of the above. I don't mind my child benefit going (only thing I claim). I feel none of the 'gravy train' and 'elite' that you describe.

I have money for my next meal and have no regrets. At least someone is having a go at sorting out the pile of shit that labour left behind. I'm not saying I think they've done brilliantly or that I didn't vote for them as 'the best of a bad bunch' I'm just glad someone is trying to address it rather than sticking their heads in the sand.

YANBU to hold an opinion. Those who intimate that anyone who likes him/the current government are moronic and stupid etc ABVVU however, not to mention incredibly rude. I find people who say things like this are simply trying to bully others into their own way of thinking.

I like DC and am not stupid. Before any conclusions are jumped to here, I'm from a working class background and my DH and I are both public sector workers who've had pay freezes and pension cuts etc etc. Oh, and I remember Thatcher very well as I was a teenager when she was in power. Some of us actually believe in small government you know. Some of us dislike the entitlement culture promoted by the last government. Some of us don't want our country to be in the position of Greece or Spain.

That Labour has any support left baffles me. People have short memories and seem to have forgotton about all the very bad choices they made...

Ongar - sorry to disappoint, but noone I know who voted Tory regrets it now. They're losing tax credits, child benefit, but are all looking at the bigger picture and not just thinking of themselves as you imagine them to be.

Thruaglass, I thoroughly agree. I want to see a reverse of the spiral of decline for the sake of my son's generation.

Sick of "Labour left this mess", slogan being overused I am sick of it, yes they are partially to blame, but current economical crisis is global, GLOBAL as in not only happening in this country, and when exactly DC and comrade's are planing to at least start sorting this "Labour mess" out, Tory voters will defend and say"They only been in power for a year", same cop out we will hear next year, "But they only been in power for two years" and so on.
Time will slowly pass, poor will get poorer, firm favourite scapegoat will be found, and blamed for everything that is wrong with this country. In the mean time us regular people will be so self absorbed with survival(feeding hungry mouths) we will not have time to keep up with political news and developments, too busy with a survival.(Classic case of diversion)
Labour has it's faults, lot of them, but at least under Labour in power we have lived, many of us did , it was good a life with opportunities and ideals, life that made sense unlike this miserable nightmare we living now.

YANBU - he cannot be taken seriously he is a lightweight, a liar... not going to go on for fear of blood pressure
However if I were in the UK I would be more likely to be crying than laughing!

Strictloving - I agree with you. Labour didn't make this mess. Of course it's global. But their policies of over-spending and over-inflating the public sector didn't help and needed to be checked. They were taking us into very dangerous waters.

Whoever won the election was going to be receiving a poisoned chalice, let's face it. The whole world's in a mess right now. We need a miracle. What we don't need is another government who spends public money just to get people to like them and to win votes. It's not working for the American economy now, is it?

The best part about the Tories being in power has been the shameful whining and adolescent sore loser behaviour from the ranks of labour supporters.

You trashed the place and helped yourselves to whatever you wanted. Time for the adults to clean up the mess and restore a little responsibility.

I disliked Tony Blair for all sorts of reasons, I marched against him and would have been happy to have seen him in jail over the Iraq business. And I thought Gordon was pretty useless. But can't help noticing that the general tone was a lot more civilised under the Labour governments. Now it is suddenly ok to pitch into the weakest members of society- the hysterical accusations against immigrants and people on benefits remind me strongly of the Thatcher and Major years, except that the disabled have now been added to the list of fair game.
(Just remind me someone of how the Major government contributed to the wellbeing of the nation).

I haven't seen any proof so far that Cameron's government are capable of providing a financial solution. But when it comes to moral corruption, we're moving right there- private greed, scapegoating of the weakest, looking out for number one.

Chicken: 'he is cutting police numbers'

But Chicken, considering you've launched an elaborate defence of the rioters on another thread, I would have thought you'd approve of this?

strictlovingmum - the 'good life' under labour wasn't real - it was a house built on sand.

Well said cory
No financial solution I think will ever come from this last lot, DC does not give me confidence, he is too nonchalant in almost charlatan way, I don't see him as leader.
Thatcher and Major years, probably the "Real dark ages of our country" in every sense, their policies were shameful, degrading, and social class creating.
And something in common to all Tories, moral corruption, ostracise everything that's different form them, high moral stances, of course completely false.

There was a massive outcry when they announced scrapping CB and the HRT's are regretting it now or they will be when it does kick in. I expect they will relent on that one anyway as it might have been a smokescreen to go after their real victims. The most vulnerable families. Disabled and Single Parents who they have utter contempt for.

Also they might not have been in office long but look at the cuts they have announced already. The way they have treated our brightest but poorest students is disgusting.

FWIW my DD is affected because of the year she was born 1993 so will be the first ones facing these fees if she wants to go to uni. So I know first hand how it feels to be affected by the policies they have brought it and so quickly.

We as a family will be out of the tax credit system soon and I will be able to manage on my salary which I am extremely grateful for. I will no longer be dispised by my government because I'm not married and therefore looked after by a man.

Even if I was rich and no government policy could affect me I would never ever vote conservative.

Will we be allowed to eat anything under Kate's health policy?

Same here, DS 16 will be a university student in less then two years time, long ago we started saving for uni days, and stepped up savings in the past year.
I am not about to deny our DS, bright and hard working his further education, even if our current Government is.
You tell me what kind of Government won't support and invest in future generations?
One that doesn't care, one that is segregating with very narrow views, one that is very selfish, and think that certain class of people should be left at the back of the line, out of sight and out of mind.
"Why would you educate lowest of the low?"

The thing to remember about politicians is that they are self selected from a very narrow pool of pathologically vain and psychotically ambitious people.

For ten years Gordon Brown borrowed against the never never. We all "felt" rich so joined in. Then it all went pear shaped. The only politician who had warned it was a bubble was Vince Cable.

At the election THEY ALL LOST
And whoever had got in would have faced exactly the crisis we are in.
We are at the mercy of the "markets" because we owe so eyewateringly much money that we have NO HOPE of repaying other than the interest and rolling over the capital to be inflation magiced away to the detriment of our children.

George Osborne inherited his cash from a wallpaper company
David Cameron married into the Astor family
they have no idea how it really is

then again nor do any of the other politicians - and financiers don't give a toss as they take commission on every trade.

Hmm, on careful reflection I think it would be far better to be laughing at him for something very silly - like walking into a closed door or slipping over on dog doo (preferably with that silly frantic arm waving to try to stop himself).

The day he leaves the government is the day I breathe a sigh of massive relief. I agree that there need to be cuts, I agree that labour spent too much, but it isn't the poor's fault, it isn't the disabled's fault, it isn't the fault of single mothers, it isn't solely labour's fault, and for god's sake, grow a backbone Cameron! Take the blame yourself!

I am not clever enough to think of what areas we should make cuts in, and how much. However, cuts to our military, with Afghanistan and Libya still going on? Cuts to policing with riots and looting going on? Cuts to children's homes and centers despite there being a massive lack of foster families and with the adoption system (in my opinion) being so messed up? Well done Cameron, well done. I salute you, businesses and the public are pessimistic about our economy, inflation is at roughly 5% and still on the rise, train fares to be increased by 8% (are they not expensive enough already?), the private renting sector is a mess (though has been for a while), I could go on but I won't.

wow I see some people are still glad they voted for him.
even seeing what he is doing to disabled people, how can people think that is ok ?