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Original poster

to think that you can't watch this and still want to buy eggs?

228 replies

Tollund · 18/07/2011 14:39

Just to follow on from my epic veggie thread last week - it got me thinking and doing a bit more research and I stumbled across this .

It made me sob, I mean it's really upset me. I've stopped buying eggs from the supermarket about 6 months ago and just get free range from the farmer's market now, but having seen this I think I can only get them from a woman up the road who has a some of chickens and sells anything she has left over. I'd really like to keep chickens myself but we don't have the space at the moment unfortunately.

AIBU to think that you can't not rethink what you do after seeing that?

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Tollund · 18/07/2011 19:37

Just watched If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian - thanks for the tip.

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GingerWrath · 18/07/2011 19:41

The thing is, the gassed male chicks are a valuable by product. Should they have not bothered with bringing the Great Bustard back because there was no food available to support the breeding program?

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Tollund · 18/07/2011 19:45

Putting the bustards aside for one second Ginger - can you honestly say you watched those chicks going into that macerator and being ground up whilst alive and honestly thought, "oh that's really good and necessary and I'm fine with that"?

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SpecialFriedRice · 18/07/2011 19:46

Tollund What are you're thoughts on the slaughterhouse vid? I found it quite upsetting myself and watched it at a time when I was going off meat anyway. As I said earlier, I'd never watch it again, even if you paid me! Maybe I'm too sensitive! :(

Andrewofgg · 18/07/2011 19:50

Presumably if you keep a dog you feed it meat? What would happen to that business if we all turned veggie? Do you think animals killed to be fed to dogs and cats are somehow more humanely killed than animals killed to be fed to us?

Frankly, I can see where veggies are coming from and I can see where dog-lovers are coming from but I can't see where you are coming from if you are both.

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 18/07/2011 19:51

Until the cock birds started trying to murder each other, eh favorelles?

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Tollund · 18/07/2011 19:52

Special - I thought it was bloody grim and upsetting but actually very good and will probably show my DSs when they're at an age not to have nightmares about it.

I did see a programme about 13 years ago solely about the slaughter of pigs. It was on for about an hour and was absolutely horrific (worse even that "If slaughterhouses".) I often wonder what that programme was as I'd really like DH to watch it...

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SleepyCaz · 18/07/2011 19:53

It won't stop me buying eggs, but isn't very nice.

shortround · 18/07/2011 19:53

Just watched If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian - thanks for the tip.

urgh - can't do it - Sick - i cant stand Paul Mcartney!

Ilythia · 18/07/2011 19:54

YABU. I grew up on a farm, slaughtered, plucked and prepared my own goose for easter dinner at the age of 7, ate my own pet rabbits when they froze to death in a snowstorm.
Yoiu need to understand that because I don't agree with becoming a vegetarian, or vegan, doesn't mean i routinely go round kicking puppies or poking cats eyes out with red hot skewers.
I like eating animals. I like animals. The two things are not mutually exclusive.

Also, I might love MrSpoc a little.

Ilythia · 18/07/2011 19:55

Seriously, all of you horrified by the videos, what did you think happened to the male chicks, cows, sheep? They are not licked to death by angels ffs.

DilysPrice · 18/07/2011 19:55

You can feed dogs on vegetarian or vegan dog food - I know a friend with a vegan cat Shock, which seemed to live a long and happy life, though it may have supplemented its lentils with the occasional free range mouse.

GingerWrath · 18/07/2011 19:57

I absolutely don't agree with the chicks that were macerated, and although it isn't nice, the chicks that were gassed wouldn't know what was happening and there IS a market for them, not for humans that have a choice whether or not to eat meat but for animals who solely exist on a carnivorous diet. What I mean is, they aren't dying in vain, they aren't just shipped off to the nearest landfill, and in some cases it is life or death for endangered/in peril species in the world. Shall we just close down the factories and let these species die off?

TalkinPeace2 · 18/07/2011 19:59

Dilys
Sorry but that CANNOT be true.
Cats cannot synthesise Taurine so they HAVE to eat meat
without it they go blind and their bones break within a matter of months.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurine

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Tollund · 18/07/2011 20:01

DO you not think it might be possible to work out a slightly more moderate approach Ginger? If animals have to be farmed and killed there must be more humane ways of doing it and the consumer in an ideal world should take some responsibility instead of demanding cheap crap meat at rock bottom prices? Intensive farming is a relatively recent development, surely if you went back only fifty years things were done differently?

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Ilythia · 18/07/2011 20:01

You can feed your cat vegan food, but I am fairly certain they will be 'supplementing' their diet in a fairly inhumane way.

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 18/07/2011 20:03

I don't think you can force a cat to be vegan. Surely it'd just piss off next door for some meaty chunks or empty a sparrows nest.

DilysPrice · 18/07/2011 20:06

Vegan cat food apparently contains synthetic taurine from laboratories - it's not too tricky to synthesise amino acids.

However even the people selling the food do say that it's tricky to maintain perfect cat health on a vegan diet Hmm.

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 18/07/2011 20:08

Can dogs be healthy on a vegan diet?

GingerWrath · 18/07/2011 20:08

Tollund How would you get rid of the male chicks? Their will always be a demant for eggs. I used 7 tonight in our tea. So how would you get rid of the male chicks?

GingerWrath · 18/07/2011 20:10

there and demand obviously!, Watching TV at the same time! Blush

shortround · 18/07/2011 20:10

Im chuckling at the idea of a vegetarian cat! what a waste of money!! seeing as next door seems to love bringing thier chewed mice into our garden!! maybe they are veggie and that is why they are always in ours, with thier mice? ooh naughty naughty cats!!

ohnoudidnt · 18/07/2011 20:12

SpecialFriedRice I have seen that video before and found it VERY disturbing.I promised myself not to watch it again as it really did stay with me for weeks after.I would pay more for meat /eggs etc to know the animal has had a better standard of living and was transported and killed with respect,but unfortunately as that clip shows,some people are just scum.Is very sad.

Ilythia · 18/07/2011 20:15

'Eating meat is bad for our health, it's bad to the environment and it directly supports appalling cruelty to animals.'

Quote from if slaughterhouses had glass walls.

I disagree with all of thsoe statements, and the title of the film.

GingerWrath · 18/07/2011 20:19

I always thought that we had grinding teeth for vegetarian stuff and incisors/canines for meat so we are in fact omnivores like wolves?

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