For being furious at DH telling DSD that my degree isn't a real degree?

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So DH is sat down with his DD taking about careers etc. He says to her "these days, you need a job that pays at least £20k a year but at the same time, you don't want to be stressing yourself out with difficult degrees and stuff. You want to enjoy your time at uni. That's why I think nursing would be ideal for you! you get to go to uni, you don't have to do a difficult degree and you get a well paid job at the end of it!".

So DSD says "But isn't a degree in nursing going to be just as difficult?" and he replied "no course not, they call it a degree but its not like a real degree".

I'm furious as I worked bloody hard to get my degree and he knows this. It isn't an "easy option" at all. I had it out with him and he apologised for upsetting me but still maintains that nursing is an easy alternative to doing a "real" degree.

MummyTiger... I'll explain better, sorry. I meant that a qualification in nursing on Anatomy, say, it something that isn't going to change, ie. all the bits of the body will always be that way. Pharmacology and how drugs affect the body, along with treatment of diseases and illnesses, that's quite fluid I would have though - always changing and subject to new technologies. So nursing and all the branches of medicine would need ongoing training because of the changes.

A qualification in Statistics or History or Geography or English wouldn't really have that many updates. I work in wastes management and that does, it's changing all the time.

That's what I meant. I never wanted to be a nurse or a doctor but I did want to be a pharmacist at one point. I couldn't work in the caring profession, I'd be a puddle of tears and useless all the time, so please don't read my posts as any kind of disparaging to your occupation, people like you are what makes the world work, ^MummyTigeer*.

Why should this bite me, Hermionesjumper? I left before they haven't even brought the degree syllabus in yet.
I would argue that nursing is not quite a profession, but a top notch job nonetheless.
I already hold a degree in a subject I love, so I'm not jealous about nurses having degrees. It's not about that at all.
If you want to part with -what is it now £70?-every year for little in return, then that is up to you. Paying a fee does not make you a professional, though.

If you are a staple of how the world operates, then please for the love of god take me out of it. You've contradicted yourself at every single turn on this post, and any attempt I've made to try and steer it back to the original point has been lost in translation.

"I can see why some nurses may be put off complaining for fear of reprisals."
Funny that, because you were only half an hour ago posting about how nurses never "complain", they "whinge" and it's "unprofessional" of them to do so. I don't understand your logic in the slightest.

And I happen to hold my mother in the highest regard because she's the most intelligent and caring person I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. I may be naive in trying to see the best out of a bad situation, but at least I don't take a bad situation and turn myself into a withered, bitter shell.

And LWITW, I see what you mean now - and I don't think you were putting down anyone, there's just one person on here that seems to like to do that. I'd love to work as a nurse and am looking into it, but I'm betting it will take years of emotionally draining work in order to bring myself to the point where I wouldn't be a mass of tears. I'm going to have to become a much stronger person to do it but at the end of the day it will be worth every minute. It pains me to think of someone being ill-treated, not getting the care they deserve, or suffering from a disease that I wouldn't be able to help with. I've tried caring for my grandmother and grandfather in the past, and both of them have now gotten to the point where I can't see them - it just confuses them as they think I'm 3 years old. It's heartbreaking :(

A profession is a vocation founded upon specialized educational training, the purpose of which is to supply disinterested counsel and service to others, for a direct and definite compensation, wholly apart from expectation of other business gain.

That's what a profession is defined as. So I'd say that yes, nursing IS a profession.

MummyTigger you don't understand my logic because you are a bit thick (you have called me worse).
Just because I understand why they may be put off for fear of reprisals, if they do wish to be seen as a true profession they should complain because complaining is what professions do when denied the opportunity to do their job properly and, fair enough, to some of the nurses here; they are complaining. So good on 'em.

So since they are complaining, they are a profession. And yet you just claimed "I would argue that nursing is not quite a profession, but a top notch job nonetheless." Another contradiction.

Complaining about something doesn't make you a professional in the field. It's defined by what I just posted, note the world "complain" is not mentioned once.

Wamster.. You're out of order calling anybody 'thick'. Don't.

Wamster. I am sorry but as an unbiased observer, I have to say it is you not MummyTigger who has come off looking a fool on this thread. You are inconsistent and full of bile. You do not answer posts when people ask you questions and oyu look like a very sad, bitter person. I feel very sorry for you but I think you should stop now as it is becoming very uncomfortable to watch you doing this to yourself.

For your own good, stop now. Try to let go of whatever is eating you up inside and try to find some happiness in your life.

And she is out of order for calling me an arse and a git.

£70 a year for very little return --- a job I love and continue to excell in and I get paid an excellent salary (Im senior) go and have a look at the payscales.

I am a professional -every day ,every single day I put my uniform on and in everything I do for my patients.

That's because you descended into complete idiocy and refused to listen. I'm hardly going to call you "a reasonable and rational human being" now, am I?

Well said, Hermionesjumper

I don't want to know your salary of payscales. But do you really think it is right to pay £70 a year to do your job? You should have to pay to do it. Why?

Your salary or payscales is relative, anyway, I don't want to go down the 'this is how much I earn, aren't I great?' route. I think nursing pay is OK myself, others like Xenia appears to think it's shit- it's all relative so let's not go there.

Im not paying to do my job -Im paying to maintain my professional registration -that allows me to practice as a nurse .
You seemed to think I get very little out of being a nurse -in many ways I simply couldnt put a price on the love I have for my job .
Oh and the money is nice as well

Off to RL -really this time !

PMSL. I've read this thread backwards and fully expected Wamsters fixation with lack of water relating to a severly confused, elderly, physically debilitated patient being left for hours without any monitoring of fluid intake and ultimately needing IV fluid replacement and was prepared to be suitably outraged on his/her behalf.
But she seems to be arguing that the NMC will bring disciplinary charges against a nurse who fails to fill a jug of water that she may not have noticed was empty.
It's a shame that you didn't make it as a nurse - was it the academic side that you failed on or did your obsession with water jugs tip you over the edge?

OP YANBU.

Sassybeast I passed my nursing course and qualified as a nurse. So your 'quips' mean nothing to me. They deemed me fit to practise and I did so without incident.
For what it is worth, I took responsibility for patients having adequate nutrition and being clean and properly hydrated seriously. You seem to think it is something to be smart about.

SassyBeast is in detention...

Well it's nice to know you had such time on your hands, Wamster. It must have kept you busy 24/7.

And just so you know, when I said I "died" of laughter, I feel I should clarify that I didn't actually die.

No, I just laughed. And then went and got myself a glass of water...or should I have waited for my mother to come home to do it for me?

And I am not arguing that a nurse who fails to fill a jug of water would be struck off by the NMC -just that they are the people who are responsible for making sure these needs are met. Not the same thing.

I would wait if I were you, MummyTigger, you seem to get all of your opinions from your mum anyway, so you may as well ask her to get water for you and tuck you in as well.

Better her mum than the Daily Mail..........