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To feel touched by Katie Price's article on Harvey?

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emkana · 30/06/2011 13:27

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2009642/Katie-Prices-heartfelt-denunciation-Frankie-Boyles-vile-slur-Harvey.html

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bibbitybobbityhat · 30/06/2011 16:15

Agree that its a shame that the writing doesn't sound like her and is so obviously written by someone else. It doesn't help us to connect her, KP, to the feelings described in the article. I am sure with a bit of tweaking they could have made it seem more authentic, even if it wasn't.

spookshowangel · 30/06/2011 16:16

i also have a daughter with autism what does classic autism mean. and i think you will find i said it doesnt make it less serious.

ZXEightyMum · 30/06/2011 16:19

IIRC "Harvey tries to eat me" was a direct quote from KP which was not objected to in the interview published even when it appeared in the side-bar or whatever journalists call the snippets they use which are highlighted in big stars and stuff

Having the slogan and a photograph depicting the child even as part of a sticker supplement comprising many Heat moments was immensely distasteful. But I do wonder if the magazine went ahead because of KP's attitude in general. She had been in the public eye for many years at that point and must have known how every utterance can be taken out of context.

Pedallleur · 30/06/2011 16:24

How much did she get paid? I remember the D.telegraph doing a piece on her and she was put out she wasn't getting paid for the interview and she refused to let the children be photographed without money changing hands

Lunabelly · 30/06/2011 16:29

FB isn't funny - bloody nasty more like. Too right he should apologise, as there's boundary pushing, and there's downright offensiveness, and he seems to cross that line regularly.

Am no fan of KP, but in the article she mentions that she has made strong provisions for Harvey for when she's gone - so you can't blame her for making money now to shore up for that future.
Plus she is speaking up against the bullying and discrimination that people with disabilities face every day. So all power to her.

As for ghost writers - maybe, maybe not, but I've no doubt the sentiments are hers. She is his mother, y'know; there's a rare mum that doesn't have an inner tigress waiting to pounce on someone who hurts her child...so I really wouldn't want to be FB!

MarioandLuigi · 30/06/2011 16:31

So you have a daughter on the Autistic Spectrum and you dont think FB's jokes were offensive angel?

spookshowangel · 30/06/2011 16:33

mario did you actually read my post?

MarioandLuigi · 30/06/2011 16:35

Yes I did read your post. you said that FB's jokes make disabilities less scary. I feel really bloody scared. Scared that there are attitudes out there like yours that seem to condone the joke because its meant to be funny.

Pagwatch · 30/06/2011 16:40

Actually Mario I think angel said that laughing about disability can be therapeutic. She also said Frankie boyles joke was in bad taste.

Of course I may be wrong. I am very busy with a baying mob to lead.

spookshowangel · 30/06/2011 16:41

no i didnt say that. you have taken the first part of my post ignored the middle and taken the end and ignored the bit were i call frankie boyle a knob. interesting, i wonder why that is. no i didnt find frankie boyles joke offensive not in the way you seem to it was a bad joke and made him look like an idiot and the out come of it has propelled jordan in to out public eye again as a so called advocate for disabled people so all in all he really should have re thought it. that is what i said in my initial post in a nut shell mario please dont deliberately change the meaning of my posts to suit your own agenda.

EricNorthmansMistress · 30/06/2011 16:45

because frankie boil made a stupid bad taste joke (wouldn't be the first comedian) which made him look like a knob

I think you'll find she does think the joke was offensive, I think you have missed her point. The point being that KP is using the FB joke to manipulate public opinion about her.

I'm not sure I agree with her, but you really should make sure you aren't arguing with a straw woman.

JamieAgain · 30/06/2011 16:45

I agree with Pag

And the fact is that FB wouldn't know genuine satire if it stood up in his soup.

EricNorthmansMistress · 30/06/2011 16:47

She said laughing about epilepsy made epilepsy less scary. To her. An epilepsy sufferer.

TheHumanCatapult · 30/06/2011 16:48

I may not like the public face we all see of KP.But bringing it out to the public eye is good becuase she is right if jokes were made about p*i or ni*er in the same way as about people being disabled .There be a massive outcry since neither words are acceptable nowadays

And at east someone thats high profile is getting it out in the public eye which is far more than what we can acheieve .Im pretty sure no matter what else she would have some of the same worries about Harvey that any of us with a child with sn has.Even with the money she has yes that means more help .But it can not take away all the worrys

And yes Boyle well he should be made to publically apolgise for his "joke" shows that disability hate crimes are still not taken seriously

smallwhitecat · 30/06/2011 16:51

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MummyTigger · 30/06/2011 16:58

I'm acquaintances with a few disabled people of varying levels, and they all found Frankie Boyle very funny. But they have the "live and let live" attitude. Certain people seem to want to treat disabled people by putting them on a pedestal and making every move they make holy, when in fact in my experience they just want to be treated like a normal person. So if a normal person can have jokes made about them, why can't others? There are blonde jokes, lawyer jokes, MIL jokes, dad jokes, kiddie jokes... should we stop telling jokes full-stop because someone, somewhere will inevitably be offended by them?

A joke is a joke, you either find it funny or you don't find it funny. If the latter, then obviously you just have a different sense of humour to others. I find Frankie Boyle funny at times, and so do most of my friends.

She complained about it last year, and people agreed with her. But now, another year on, to make another massive hoopla about it to garner affection from the British public is just going beyond. I can't stand the woman and I've never understood how she is famous in the first place.

The trick is: I don't watch her shows. I don't read her stories. I don't Google her to see what she is getting up to. I avoid the woman as much as possible because, quite frankly, she makes me want to puke. And if people feel that way about Frankie Boyle, then just don't watch his television shows.

It's like going into a restaurant, ordering something you obviously don't like, and then sending it back to complain that you didn't like it. If you don't like it, why order it? If you don't like it, why watch it?

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MarioandLuigi · 30/06/2011 17:03

I'm acquaintances with a few disabled people of varying levels, and they all found Frankie Boyle very funny

Disabled people who I assume are grown ups. We are atlking about a child here, thats the difference, someone that cant defend themselves.

Riveninside · 30/06/2011 17:04

I am a disabled person mummytiger and FB is an offensive knob. Making obscene jokes about a child ffs.

As for KP, if her show leads to less hatred twoards disabled people then fair play to her. I dont give the tiniest shit she is making money from it or what she does with it.

TheHumanCatapult · 30/06/2011 17:07

hmm qand what sort of disiabilitys as well becuase Im sure that a lot ,one would not understand andthat would be the group that is unable to stand up for themselves,.So they need someone to say no that is not funny.

Oh and i am disabled and do not find him remotley funny and neither do a lot of my friends disabled or not disabled .They think that was disgusting

Pagwatch · 30/06/2011 17:08

Swc

I don't think I lack empathy.
But I think she uses her children to make money. We all worry about our children after our deaths but I would still not expose my child in the way she has.
I am not sure expressing distaste at the marketing of her children as part of her Katies Life series means you therefore cannot understand care worries.

Omigawd · 30/06/2011 17:08

I am shocked and saddened that a thread can spend 5 pages discussing Katie Price......

smallwhitecat · 30/06/2011 17:08

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MummyTigger · 30/06/2011 17:08

Not all of them are adults, but then again I see your point. They are old enough to understand the funny side of it. And I merely said that, in my experience, they've been about to laugh along. I didn't make a sweeping generalization about every single disabled person in the country.

My main issue about this still stands though - should we stop telling jokes full-stop? And for that matter, why do people continue to watch him if they find him so offensive? I dislike Katie Price, but I won't sit there and watch her shows just so I can have something to complain about.

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