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To feel touched by Katie Price's article on Harvey?

415 replies

emkana · 30/06/2011 13:27

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2009642/Katie-Prices-heartfelt-denunciation-Frankie-Boyles-vile-slur-Harvey.html

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OmniaParatus · 30/06/2011 17:11

But Katie Price being an advocate for disabled people is not going to lead to more understanding. She is not articulate, or pleasant, or good at conveying any of the issues which face disabled people or carers. She is a media hungry non-entity and will only trivialise the issue. She is doing this only for herself, and it will not benefit anyone else.

noddyholder · 30/06/2011 17:13

It was the last time the papers printed a story relating to her and she is trying to cash in as her star is falling. No one is interested in her.

TheHumanCatapult · 30/06/2011 17:14

no but he should have stood up and said sorry that was personal and a joke to far he did not make a genral joke about being disabled he made a joke personal about a named child who can not say oi .

Oh and i make jokes about my life in a wheelchair the key word is my life not someone elses life .But I am also caperable of saying something if I am not happy where Harvey can not

TheHumanCatapult · 30/06/2011 17:16

omina

Maybe not in some ways ,but it brings it back out in public , where others will speak out as well .

Riveninside · 30/06/2011 17:18

So youd be ok with racist jokes then mummytiger?

MummyTigger · 30/06/2011 17:22

Simply put? Yes.

I don't wail and stamp my little feet every time someone makes a joke about the size of my arse, or my red hair, or the fact that I'm Welsh. I can't change who I am, and I laugh along with it. I have a diverse group of people who I frequently chat to, and half of the worst jokes I hear come direct from source from people that joke is making fun of.

smallwhitecat · 30/06/2011 17:24

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Riveninside · 30/06/2011 17:25

Well, anyone makes a joke about dd they get a punch in the face. Thats my freedom of expression.

MilaMae · 30/06/2011 17:25

Gosh what horrible posts.I can't believe the vitriol and down right nastiness people feel the need to post.

So KP wrote an article declaring her love for her son and how hard caring for a child with SN can be.Wow that's really awfulHmm.

Writing a book is one thing but writing an article on one's love for one's son,I think just about everyone of us would be able to do it however educated we are.So she's used a ghost writer before,personally as a mum I think there is a jolly good chance she did write the piece and you know what I don't care if she didn't.It's lovely.

I hate,hate,hate the KP bashing.It's like a witch hunt and I don't get it.So she wears skimpy clothes and has plastic surgery woopy do.

I learnt a lot from that piece,the main thing being how hard it must be to have a child and see it suffer.I really feel for her,I admire her balls and I admire the way she gets on with giving Harvey as good a life as possible and focusing on the positive.The article made me think how tough it must be for parents in her situation who don't have nannies to give some respite. They will have all the pain she describes but also stress as she highlights.

I think FB's comments were deplorable,any decent minded person would.Just imagine if it was your child.Jesus I'd be devastated. Sorry I'd never get over it or the lack of an apology.Why should Harvey,his mother or any other person with SN take that shit?ShockOh because her mum likes pink and having big boobs. Hmm

OmniaParatus · 30/06/2011 17:26

Maybe TheHumanCatapult, but what they will be saying may not be good for public perceptions of disabled people if the programme is totally geared toward generating publicity for Katie.

You could argue by the same logic that Frankie Boyle's joke brought it out in public too, and much more effectively, because everyone said 'No, that is unacceptable', and it started a genuine debate on how badly disabled people are treated in the public eye.

It was still wrong for him to have made it. C4 controllers should not have OK'd it for broadcast.

TheHumanCatapult · 30/06/2011 17:28

mummytiger

the differance if someone says something that upsets you or you feel is a step to far you can say something about it .

Harvey can not

TheHumanCatapult · 30/06/2011 17:30

Omi

Hopefully others will speak up as well .publicty or not it is good to have it talked about or not .And we do need to remember no matter what people think of her she is his mum and that would hurt any mum

Frankie boyle and head of C4 have shown just what sort of people they are I agree.But thing is they still not said sorry and like Kp I would keep going on till they did if was same postion.

JamieAgain · 30/06/2011 17:32

Mila - it's possible to have compassion for KP whilst also wishing she had not in the past so relentlessly pushed her children into the limelight without their consent. she, IMO has failed to care sufficiently for their wellbeing and privacy in that respect, despite her "love" for them.

I agree about FBs comments.

MummyTigger · 30/06/2011 17:32

Maybe so, however lots of people did stand up and speak out on his behalf, and the matter was settled last year. So why bring it back up now?

JamieAgain · 30/06/2011 17:33

And because she has, in the past not put her children's wellbeing first, then it makes her wanting to be an advocate for children pretty suspect, IMO

MilaMae · 30/06/2011 17:35

Oh and re putting her kids in the limelight,she doesn't do that with the other two anymore and sorry I don't think putting ones kids in the limelight automatically means one is a despicable,worthless person and a dreadful mother worthy of a bitchfest because she wrote about her love for her son.

We all have our little faults none of us are perfect.Ok I'd never let my kids go on reality tv but then I suspect I holler far more than KP does.To be frank if I was coping with half she is I'm not sure I'd be able to handle it as well as she does.It would be my aim but I don't have half her balls so who knows.

Sorry credit when credit is due it was a lovely article and good on KP for creating it.

TheHumanCatapult · 30/06/2011 17:39

mummytiger

because he never apolgised .I would not let it go either if it was my child spoken about like that .Would you ?

smallwhitecat · 30/06/2011 17:40

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spookshowangel · 30/06/2011 17:41

in fact 500 people stood up and complained on Harvey's behalf, many people agreed with jordan at the time but now she is just riding it and i find that more deplorable and the fact that she feels the need to repeat the "joke" so the reader can be suitable horrified (sensationalised) rehashing the whole thing. has fb repeated the "joke" since?

madammecholet · 30/06/2011 17:42

That was an appauling outrageous thing that Boyle said......and to not have an apology is disgusting.

flippinada · 30/06/2011 17:43

smallwhitecat - I'm as bleeding heart lefty pinko liberal (etc) as you like, and you know what? I agree entirely.

OmniaParatus · 30/06/2011 17:44

True THC, I accept she must have been hurt but to go on to make a TV show about her son, where she is the real star and will maximise publicity relating to it to strengthen her brand is really not going to make for an informed and unbiased debate on disability rights.

I really hope you are right and I am wrong. My sister is disabled and my dad was disabled and I'd love to see the day when everyone sees the person and not the disability. But I don't think this will hasten that day Sad.

MilaMae · 30/06/2011 17:49

Why is she "just riding it" ?She didn't have an apology,it's not good enough. Believe me if I was Harvey's mother I wouldn't let it lie until I had profuse apologies, serious groveling and donations to charity.

You never hear about what it's like to raise an SN child because it probably doesn't make any money. The fact KP writes about this issue is a good thing.If I had a SN child I'd want to read about how other mothers coped,to know I wasn't the only one.

The only reason she gets the print space is because of who she is thus widening the knowledge of what raising an SN child is like.

Riveninside · 30/06/2011 17:49

I made an effort swc. And got bitched about it. But yeah, more covergae about disabled peoples issues please journos.

TheHumanCatapult · 30/06/2011 17:51

Omni

I love to see that as well really would .

Yes maybe it givers her mor epublicty. smallcat is right all those so called liberals that speak out about all the other issues going on in the world need to look around and speak up about the issue to .

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