To feel touched by Katie Price's article on Harvey?

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www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2009642/Katie-Prices-heartfelt-denunciation-Frankie-Boyles-vile-slur-Harvey.html

Oh yes, if only we ALL had a disabled son we could make money out of . Boyle's half second 'joke' made for shock was the best thing that ever happened to KP, I bet the pound signs lit up in her eyes when she heard it.

She's actually going to be seeking Boyle on her new show to get him to apologise to her face to face. As if he'd do that

it's a shame people can't see past the fact that she is 'jordan' and their dislike for her. I don't care if she had an editor or a ghost writer - I think it's a very good point well made.

aitch - sadly simply one of many comments over the years (and dd1 is only 6!)

tbh, by the time that was said, when dd1 was only 2, I had already had so many similar comments (and I do not live in jeremy-kyle central, by any means!) that it was, to a degree, water off a ducks back.

just another friend crossed off a Christmas card list.

and that is why I try ot see the good in what KP is doing with this programme. because this is and issue that needs addressing, both in FB terms, and also in wider society/acceptability terms.

when you have a child with SN, everyone thins they have the right to comment. on income, on holidays, on education, on parenting, oh, on everything - just like MN at it's judgypants best, but with the underlying assumption that you are a poor deluded fool for wanting to educate your child, for hoping to be able to keep living with your child, christ, for even loving your child.

The depressing thing is, I bet they actually did Scheherezadea.

maurice - you are the one who needs to wise up, if you think that the point that KP is making is not a valid one.

I could not give a flying fuck what her background is, or how much money she might make form this (or whether she donates it to charity or not).

But I can only applaud that she is getting the issue aired at all - the blind eye that gets turned towards disability hate crimes and abuse is sickening

i see that, silverfrog. like i say, i think this is the most valid use of her children on television yet. just wish that the pr material was more recognisably 'her' though, as the whole point is that it's about 'her' experience with harvey. so if she suddenly starts speaking like Joan Bakewell it sounds faked and contributes to this idea that she is insincere.

It doesnt matter if KP wrote it or if martians did. The fact is that its about time that someone stood up for those disabled people who rarely have a voice themselves, but its seen okay to rip the shit out of, in a way that would not be acceptable if the person was from an ethnic minority or gay.

She may not be Martin Luther King or Harvey Milk, but at the very least she is sticking up for a child she loves and millions like hima nd I think that meakes her worth something.

oh, agree, aitch. can see what you mean re: ghost writing should be good and "fit" the person.

but I can't get that worked up about it, really. again, I think it better it is aired at all then not published because the ghost writer did not do a good enough job, iyswim?

The trouble is that there are several completely separate issues that get mixed together and people can't seem to separate them out.
Kp is a monstrous twit. She gives D list celebs someone to look down on because most of them have at least some limit to the things on their personal life that they will whore to make a buck.
She does not seem to have considered harveys needs for routine when hawking him and a camera crew all over the states and with a variety of different men. Yet suddenly she talks about this as one of the relentless tolls upon her life. What a knob.j

But none of that has anything to do with Harvey, not his choice.
And anyone who thinks it is valid to abuse the child to make a point about his mother is deeply thick.
Frankie boil has no point. He has no point in this regard and I can't see that he has much point on any context.
There are few people so relentlessly stupid and unpleasant that the world would be a better place were they not in it, but he is one.
He is a totem for every bigoted cock who wants to laugh at disabled people and blacks but wants someone to make it seem ok.

I would welcome some attempts at making a decent programme about life with an autistic child and can totally see the advantages in such a programme being made with a celebrity at it's heart because, let's be honest, a big chunk of the population don't give a shit about a parent struggling with a disabled child but would queue for an hour to buy a jar of Peter andres piss.

But Katie price is such a dishonest fabrication of a human being that it will just add mawkish hello over tones to the life most of us lead.

I would like to be wrong but I doubt it.

agree, pag. and agree silverfrog. i am looking at it dispassionately, with one eye on the journo side, and thinking that her press person should have been all over that to change it. not to suppress it, just to make it less obvious. that's what her old manager was very good at, selling that earthy voice and soft pedalling the fact that she was more or less a soft core pornographer.

I thought it was a good article. Probably not written by KP but the sentiments are clearly ones she stands by and it is good that they are 'out there'. I think even Peter Andre said that she loved Harvey the most out of her 3 kids. Good for her for not hiding him away and good for her for defending him.

When I was pregnant with DS1, I went to see a League of gentlemen live show. I am a very big fan of theirs. In the show, there was a sketch that involved a woman having a seizure for no reason other than cheap laughs. I laughed along with the audience (but felt a slight twinge of guilt as a friend of mine had epilepsy). Well, DS1 was born with epilepsy and I have never forgotten the fact that I sat and laughed at the idea of someone having a seizure whilst he was in my womb.

So lots of support here for KP and for anyone who stands up for disability rights.

Someone once said that all humour has its roots in aggression. There is some truth in that.

I did not watch the programme but read comments afterwards and agree they are disgusting.

She is a self-serving media whore. This is old news back in the public eye to benefit one person only.

She isn't really raising an issue. Who will watch it? People who like watching programmes about Katie Price? It won't make a remote bit of difference to anyone. It will be more of the same mawkish sentimentality. More of our teenage girls lured into a fake world of pseudo-ambition and aquisitive superficiality.

It certainly does make a hell of a difference that she couldn't even be bothered to defend her son in her own words. She basically signed off a press release written in the first person.

She's nothing but wank fodder for men and a role model for women who want to earn lots of money for being wank fodder for men.

Her whole life is ghost written.

if the programme gets even one person thinking differentyl about disability, and saves some other parent form the fuckwit questions I've had (see earlier posts) or enables one person to stand up and say "this is not right", then it is worth it.

I disagree that she should have written the article herself. maybe she felt she could not do it justice - you certainly do not know that the extent of ehr involvement was to sign off on it.

pagwatch: whilst not wanting to defend KP at all, I could easily take off with dd1 for months at a time away from home - as long as I was there, and probably dd2, with visits from/phonecalls with dh, she would be fine.

we would, of course, have to meticulously observe her daily routine, but we could move hotel/base every day if necessary, as long as her own routine was not disturbed.

i reckon a lot of those daft young girls who admire her could do with being reminded that she loves her disabled child and is prepared to fight battles for him. in a sea of bad examples, that's KP behaving quite well i'd have thought.

mauricetinkler Are you Frankie Boyle? We are not asking for censorship, just that he apologises for making a deeply offensive joke (for want of a better word).

Maybe he should take a leaf out of Tracy Morgan's book.

Frankie boyle can mock Katie price anytime he likes. That is fine. No complaint from me. If he can make them funny and satirical all the better.

It is not satire to joke about a disabled child fucking his mother. If he had maybe crafted a joke about her using him in her programmes and then asking for privacy that would have been satire. But he didn't. I suspect he lacks the wit.
I enjoy the people who think that anything offensive is always satire. They seem to miss that it needs to be relevant.

I don't tend to listen to Frankie boil but his comments have been detailed in the press and the complaint review.

Fair enough silver. Would she cope with coming home with a new boyfriend and a camera crew...like you do

she would love the camera crew (as would dd2) - more people to sing to! and a permanent camera? her idea of heaven

when you have a child with SN, everyone thins they have the right to comment. on income, on holidays, on education, on parenting, oh, on everything - just like MN at it's judgypants best, but with the underlying assumption that you are a poor deluded fool for wanting to educate your child, for hoping to be able to keep living with your child, christ, for even loving your child

whoops, bells, whistles for silverfrog* *
I would stick my head above the parapet and show the world a day in the life of my family because I want people to know what it is like for us before they judge us, and they do, endlessly.

The interest isn't there though, so when someone like KP who can get the interest of the media does it, it does all of us in this situation a favour.

i dont agree with comedy censorship, laughing at serious things like epilepsy (i am epileptic btw) doesnt make them less serious but it does for that little moment make them less scary or whatever, laughing at it also doesnt make you a bad person. and i dont agree with katie price banging Harvey's drum too make people like her again. she is brilliant at once every ones had enough for a while finding something to show she is not a complete vapid soulless cow and then she is popular again. so now she is she champion of the disabled is she. doing things in her show that she prob doesnt usually do when the cameras are not there and all because frankie boil made a stupid bad taste joke (wouldn't be the first comedian) which made him look like a knob. if having jordan back on our screens harping on about it all the bloody time is not a big enough punishment i dont know what is.

"It certainly does make a hell of a difference that she couldn't even be bothered to defend her son in her own words. She basically signed off a press release written in the first person. "

How on earth do you know that, razzle?

This is IMPORTANT. Too right she should have got people to help her sound reasoned, sensible and intelligent in print.

As for "it doesn't have her voice," I thought parts of it sounded informal enough to "be" her: ' Without his drugs, he dies ? it?s as simple as that', and 'I have been accused of hypocrisy. I understand that to an extent, and take it on the chin. '

I also think that some of the measured terms used show there has been quite a bit of legal advice taken as to what she can and cannot say: "indefensible," "discrimination" and "As the broadcaster of the Paralympics, Channel 4 is, I feel, guilty of double-standards."

Well as the mother of a child with 'Classic' autism I can tell you that FB hasnt made me feel that Autism is less serious (wtf!)

I dont think its funny, having a severly disabled child isnt funny, and I am sure as hell DS wouldnt be laughing even if he could understand the joke, which he cant.