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The Non-Feminist Point of View

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JamesHuff · 29/06/2011 15:00

I have noticed over the last while that the Feminist section has grown over the last bit.

This does not surprise me, but I feel compelled to ask why this site has begun to ascribe to a sociopolitical ideology when it was originally a resource for parents.

I think that as a result of this discrepancy, non-feminist points of view should have their own section as well. I hope people who disagree with inequalities feminism has created within our legislation will be compelled to express themselves more often.

I don't see it as unreasonable. Since there will be disagreements on various topics, I just figure a non-feminist based section would be in order. This way parents have a choice that reflects both sides of the coin.

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AliceWhirledSupportsTheStrike · 29/06/2011 21:40

Does Jamez issue those instructions to all his luverz?

Hullygully · 29/06/2011 21:42

Pagz, go say hi to Mimi. She has been Suffering.

mdowdall · 29/06/2011 21:46

I posted a poem about AnyFucker just after tea. It was deleted within seconds of being accepted. Is she royalty on here or what??

SybilBeddows · 29/06/2011 21:48

of course. Queen AnyFucker. But she normally wears a cloak with a hood so no-one will recognise her.

Pagwatch · 29/06/2011 21:49

No. She is just fucking ard. Probably for the best...
Grin

Pagwatch · 29/06/2011 21:49

Oh. Poor Mimi

swallowedAfly · 29/06/2011 21:50

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emmanumber3 · 29/06/2011 21:52

Is it not enough that people are free to debate on the Feminist threads as it is?

Hullygully · 29/06/2011 21:55

swallowed - you're right. Indeed all ref to him has gone kaput. Perhaps he flounced.

swallowedAfly · 29/06/2011 21:57

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swallowedAfly · 29/06/2011 21:58

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Hullygully · 29/06/2011 22:05

oh no - it is on my "im on"

AnyFucker · 29/06/2011 22:10

MrHoldall, hover your mouse over my name

and yes, that's a euphemism for your cock

HTH

ILoveYouToo · 29/06/2011 22:18

Kaaaayyy......
I've been biting my tongue here all evening, because I know I'll get roundly flamed and accused of being a misogynist-apologist etc.

But I'm still going to say it. I think this thread is a pathetic example of how sometimes on MN, swearing, playground cliqueness and insults are substituted for a reasoned debate on a contentious subject.

I read this thread earlier and was quite disgusted with the responses to a reasonably phrased question; I'm completely aware that the OP's opinions are not reasonable to me or most people on MN, but the fact is that he didn't post anything in his OP or any of his subsequent posts on this thread that could be construed as offensive (other than in ideology) or inflammatory (other than in ideology, as opposed to personal attacks or baiting).

I don't agree with him. At all. But the way I understood it, trollery involves someone infiltrating a forum to deliberately cause discord for the sake of it. This bloke is posting under his own name (or at least a traceable alias), posting fucking loony legitimate political and personal views. I love my mum very dearly, but she says that she isn't a feminist, Hmm and that she thinks any woman who needs feminism doesn't know 'how to handle men'. I stopped arguing with her on this in my early twenties, and we have a good relationship so long as I manage to never discuss politics at all ever ever. Grin

My point being, that you might think the OP is an offensive twat, but unless he has been rude or offensive to you, why on earth do you think it's ok to indulge in the kind of viciously insulting nasty shit that has been flung on this thread?

Because you don't agree with him?
Because he's a man?
Why?? Confused

AliceWhirledSupportsTheStrike · 29/06/2011 22:20

Have you seen the link where he posted on another forum about his intention to come here to stir things up?

AnyFucker · 29/06/2011 22:22

ILYT

for one reason, and one alone

he is a shit stirrer

pure and simple

he wanted shit, was quite open about it, he got it

everyone's a winner

SybilBeddows · 29/06/2011 22:22

rofl. Because when people post elsewhere on the internet that they're going to go somewhere and troll it's a kind of giveaway that they are a troll.
Unless we give them the benefit of the doubt and assume it was a different person with the same name and this JamezHuff93 is completely unrelated and we should judge him purely by his posts on here.

SybilBeddows · 29/06/2011 22:24

actually is it even fair of us to assume JamesHuff and JamesHuff 2 are one and the same? And it is certainly a bit unreasonable of us to get JamesHuff3 mixed up with all of this. We should stop it, really.

AliceWhirledSupportsTheStrike · 29/06/2011 22:24

And he has admitted on same forum that it is all him.

swallowedAfly · 29/06/2011 22:24

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SuePurblybilt · 29/06/2011 22:25

ILOVEYOU - I think you missed the point that he had widely posted he was trolling. ShirleyKnot knows - feck knows how but she always does. She's like Miss Marple but with swears.

SybilBeddows · 29/06/2011 22:26

and ILYT, have a look at the really vile stuff he has said elsewhere, linked to by other people. Your mum saying she isn't a feminist doesn't come close. Really.

Pagwatch · 29/06/2011 22:26

Oh yes. I always give men a really hard time. right man hater me. Hmm

I suspect op would have got better replies were he not maliciously trolling.

Is it be nice to trolls week?

Anyway it got quite civilised....mdowell wrote an unpleasant poem about me, I helped him with tips about Dave...

Btw why do you bite your tongue to stop yourself typing

swallowedAfly · 29/06/2011 22:28

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HidingInTheUndergrowth · 29/06/2011 22:30

ILYT, really I have been very impressed about how good natured this thread has been. very civilised really considering that it was started by a self-confessed troll whose sole reason for being here was to start a bun-fight.

I mean there was poems and everything!

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