To wonder if muslims judge non-muslim women who do not cover their heads?

[WinterSnow]

Obviously I only mean muslims who cover their head themselves, I realise some muslims do not agree with the practice.

I am curious to know whether as a non-muslim woman who doens't cover her head I would be judged?

Ah but TFO people do that everywhere..... we've all seen the older people on the ebach on teh hottest day of the eyar in full day wear and a duffle surely?

Its banned in Turkey and Tunisia because it leads to fanatacism

true, peachy

I desperately wanted to be one of the cool kids who could put on a chador one handed, with a tiny flick of the wrist, and have it fall perfectly to cover me to the floor.

I was constantly pulling, tripping, sweating, tucking my hair back in...

A small number of muslims do judge those who wear the niqab and vice versa.

I haven't come across muslims judging non muslims for not covering their head. But I have come across muslims judging non muslim women for having bare shoulders.

I think very short shorts and a vest top can look slutty if you're used to arms and legs being covered, actually...

Some of the girls used a little plastic form to create a kind of visor at the front of their's which was pretty clever, and some of the older women just had a kind of pre-made elasticated version presumably to avoid the fuss of pins and adjustments through the day.

Cap and pins was definitely the secret to keeping it neat though :)

I myself don't see that a headscarf leads to fanaticism, my grandmother always wore a headscarf to go out because it was what was done by women of her age - it's just what's culturally expected.

I have heard muslims criticising non muslims for wearing vest tops with long trousers or skirt.

And shorts and a vest top to most people in britain would be ordinary casual summer wear.

I don't judge other muslim women for not wearing the hijab because that's their choice. I chose to wear the hijab when I went to uni, because I just felt I was comfortable enough to wear one and be myself. They don't get hot during the summer, because: 1. It doesn't get hot here 2. You can buy headscarves made from light materials like chiffon.

Hijabs have gotten very stylish in the past 3 years or so - you can get brooches, bands and underscarves with flowers on the side. I also buy thin scarves from M&S or Monsoon and use them as hijabs.

yes lesley, but I do think shorts and a vest top can look awful. I've winced before now in the supermarket/around town....

I'm also confused how that ban works - could I (as a non-muslim) wear a headscarf whilst someone covering their head for religious reasons couldn't ? Seems a bit weird to me

My (Asian) friend and myself were called 'whores' as we walked past a mosque, I would have to say yes

Though I do realise (and hope) this wasnt indicative of all Muslims

You only have to look at threads on here to see judging womens appearnace and clothes is sadly a universal trait.

Peasant - im a convert so chose to cover although it took me a few years before I was brave enough in the UK. My mum is a church goi christian. I love wearing abaya and hijab. No bad hair days and no 'fat' days and its so comfortable. And if youre running late you can put in on over your pj's

Oldraver, theres as many jerks in tnemuslim community as any definedngroup.
I get called names when walking past a pub and told to go home to where i came from. I dont assume all pub going white men are racist jwrks (except in the BNP/EDL pub up the road. I wont walk past that one)
Read any EDL forum to see their opinion of mulsim converts :(

God no, not indicative of all Muslims, but a religion that has rules about dress and modesty is bound to lead some people thinking without the 'modesty' one is a slapper/slag/slut etc.

I see groups of girls and women here who are a mix of dress choices. You'll get a group of friends with some completely covered (abaya and shayla), some only wearing a hijab, and some with bare heads, or even bare arms. This would indicate to me that judging other's choices is not the norm - if it was people would gravitate towards others who had made the same choice as them and you would get groups of hijabis, groups of uncovered women etc.

Why are people being so defensive and horrid to the OP? She only asked a question to quench her inquisitiveness about the subject. Gosh, leave her alone!!!

I don't think anyone is, LoveMyOscar?

Somethingwitty it is cl;early impossible for fabric to cause fanaticism

There may be links there somewhere about places where there are more fanaticists being mroe likely to force women to cover against their will, but
'Its banned in Turkey and Tunisia because it leads to fanatacism' should surely be (if you agree with the ban anyway) 'Its banned in Turkey and Tunisia because the mysogynystic behaviour of fanaticists makes it more likely for women to be forced to cover as a result of that fanatacism'

no?

Riven the 'jerks' were two teenager-ish girls. We had just walked past the male section (realise now from looking on Google it was a community centre not mosque) and had no adverse comments and the men had politely moved out the way as they were all spilled onto the street gossippingThough I do realise (and hope) this wasnt indicative of all Muslims

I should of put [grim] after my first line as it was meant light hearted but hoped it had been balanced out by my second line

Though I do realise (and hope) this wasnt indicative of all Muslims

Not sure why I would want to read an EDL forum

Hmm That went a bit wrong

do all christians think the same? no

of course some will judge you and many will not muslims have individual thoughts too, like everyone else on the planet

the ignorance on here does shock me at times

But Freudian, one always groups behaviour....it's human nature.

It is fair to say some things about Muslims, and as an outsider it's fair to ask general questions about a group...even if that group is Muslim, one that seemingly has rules to stop people drawing or making jokes about topics sensitive to ONLY that religion and group.

Oh we make jokes. But yes, there are vocal arses objecting to everything. All groups have them. Remember the christians who objected to a play about Jesus or the Phelps family in the US, or the arse who spent some time putting ham and bacom into muslims shoes while they were parying not 2 miles from my house.
But just dont generalise cos the arses get more press time than all the rest of us.
See some muslim comediens - riaad moosa - flying while muslim. On youtube

I'm not Muslim, I'm a Noahide who chooses to cover her hair for a long list of reasons (mostly, it just makes life easier - like Riven said, no bad hair days!). I honestly tend not to notice how other women wear their hair unless they have particularly nice head covering. I certainly wouldn't judge a woman for not doing so. Clothing choices are very personal, finding a personal style that makes a person feel comfortable and beautiful is a very individual choice.

I save my judgey pants for those who pull their kids away from mine due to how I dress or make comments to me or my husband about how oppressed I must be (this was particularly common when I was in University) or giving me speeches on how my hair being covered is anti-British .