To wonder if muslims judge non-muslim women who do not cover their heads?

[WinterSnow]

Obviously I only mean muslims who cover their head themselves, I realise some muslims do not agree with the practice.

I am curious to know whether as a non-muslim woman who doens't cover her head I would be judged?

Thanks EricNorthmansMistress.

Thanks CoteDAzur, what would be their reason for not touching/looking into the eyes of a white woman.

Educated muslims my arse! Actually all the muslim girls I know from uni (which means educated) who wear a hijab, do it purely out of choice. My family do not believe in it but it would still be my choice if I wanted to.

The dynamics of the Islamic community are much more complex than that lovely little argument you have put forward and very patronising to the many muslim women who make this choice for themselves as independent people.

Strict muslims try to avoid thinking about sex with people they aren't married to, or having lustful feelings outside of marriage. It's to do with purity and piety. So they avoid looking directly at womens' faces or touching them to avoid that.

Crapola please read what I wrote here. There is no misogyny in that at all, nor are women expected to 'take responsibility' for anything.

Islam recognises that people have sexual desires, both men and women (far more enlightened on female sexuality than the other old religions) and expects both men and women to take steps to prevent themselves from feeling unlawful sexual desire (for someone they are not married to)

I don't subscribe to this belief but I can understand it, and properly applied and understood it is not misogynist.

itsnearlysummer it's not only white women, it's all women.

Well, I think am an educated Muslim, not from the UK, and I have not come across this. But it doesn't surprise me that you seem to "know" all the worst examples of Muslims there are out there, seems to be a trend with your posts.

I've lived in a (hot) muslim country and never felt judged for not covering my head by any muslim men or women there (although I myself judged some tourists wandering around town in virtually nothing )

On the heat thing, white and pale colours were very common for scarfs, which would be way cooler I expect than having an uncovered head with dark hair - much as people wear hats to keep the sun off?

Hijabs come in different colours and materials, you get winter and summer collections (seriously) and autumn adn spring collections come to that, so it's actually a lot more cooler being covered in the height of summer than having direct sunlight on ones skin IME.

Mega..... Perhaps you are not from the same place or social standing.

"She was quite impressed that the Muslim men didn't make eye contact with her or touch her hand when handing something over. She'd taken it to be a sign of respect until one of her female Muslim colleagues told her it wasn't respect but because she was unclean."

No, it should be respecy. Both sexes are told to lower their gaze. And thats BOTH.

Interesting debate. Going with the headcovering, would it be deemed offensive if I (white and non-muslim) decided to cover my head in public, in the same style that muslim women do? ie a proper headscarf not just a hat?

I have a friend who wears the hijab. At school she used to try and make her skirts as short as possible and would undo the top buttons on her blouse. In her 20s she decided she wanted to wear the hijab. She is educated and works as a professional and it was her choice. she wears fantastic colours of hijab.

MissVerinder, you could wear what you like, but expect people to assume you're muslim and proffer the Arabic salutation to you.....

As an aside, Muslims and Islam is not exclusive to one colour/race, I have plenty of white, black, chinese etc Muslim friends.

I (white ex-catholic) went on holiday to Iran last summer and was required to wear hijab while I was there.

I can confirm it is hot, and I found it quite uncomforatble - mainly because it was always falling off and having to be readjusted. I was stopped by police whilst carrying shopping and told to pull my headscarf further forwards.

I wore it because I had to, but also out of respect. I would always cover my arms and legs in a muslim country, although had not worn a headscraf before.

The women I sopke to there told me they would wear hijab even if the government didn't require it, because it was respectful.

HTH

excuse the typos

I am always amazed at how well some women manage to keep theirs on. I would be hopeless and always having to adjust.

I'm a Muslim woman who doesn't cover her hair. Plus I'm white british so look nothin like a typical Muslim. Not sure where I fit in with this.

Undercap and pins and it stays on :)

Theres a woman on youtube who posts as 'non muslim hijabi' and shows various styles and her reason for covering despite not being a mulsim.

The way the Iranian women threw around their chadors and managed to keep it on whilst holding three bags of shopping and a baby was nothing short of miraculous....

Ah, thank you riven. Always wondered how my friend's scarf always stays in place.

ahhh riven I wish I'd known that before I went!

Is your hair all flat at the end of the day? I had to wash mine every night as it was all sweaty and plastered to my head....

Yeah, we do get 'hijab hair'

Looking forward to Riv's answer to revolting epasant's Q as it is an interesting one.

(interesting becuase I know the answer I mean)

I have to say, I wouldn't have dreamed of not wearing it but I was really pleased to take it off once we got to the border...

It was the layers that some ladies wore which amazed me - all in 35 degree heat; heeled shoes, tights, long skirt, long mac (can't remember what they were called sorry), headscarf and a chador over the top. I was in a thin cotton long shirt and baggy cotton trousers and flipflops and was roasting...

There are tricks xstitch! Pins and tucks and extra bits and all sorts. I live in a muslim country and the lady's loos are very interesting watching everyone swoosh and sweep their hijabs into place in front of the mirrors.