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to think people should respect my choice of name?

332 replies

DuchessofPsmith · 11/06/2011 23:22

I'm a regular MNer, but am writing under an assumed name (and using more fake names) for what's about to be obvious reasons.

DP is in fact DH. We'd had a non-legal shindig a year after we met, and told everybody that's that. And part of that was because during my previous marriage I was driven nuts by a few assholes misguided friends who'd refused to accept I hadn't changed my name: that it was still "Ms Psmith" not "Mrs Ahmed", so I really wanted to avoid giving anbody a reason to get it wrong again.

DP and I thought a bit later that it might be both pleasing to his mum, and protecting for me if anything should happen to him, to do the legal thing, so we secretly married, inviting only our mutual best friend and DH's mum as witness. We made it clear to both of them that this was to be kept secret, and that my name would remain "Ms Psmith".

Within days, the old bat made me regret inviting her, making jokes about total strangers asking "which Mrs Jones?" (as if they'd know). And within a few months DP/H and I were getting [holiday] cards from her relatives addressed to "Mr and Mrs Jones".

A few years went by. DP/H in the meantime heard from his sister that MIL had blabbed to her as well, but it wasn't officially General Knowledge. DP/H of course explained why this was, and all the stuff you read above, i.e. to respect my name.

We got invited to a wedding in her neck of the family; I sent hand-written acceptances using our two names. So, I was a but surprised to see my dinner placecard written as not "Jane Psmith" but "Jane Jones".

We didn't let it ruin our evening (although the general white-trashiness of the event was worthy of a whole 'nother thread). We stayed through dinner but left before the disco (my being 8 months pregnant proved useful for escape). On our way out, during the goodbye and pleasantries with SIL, I handed her my placecard and said "I am certain I spelled my name correctly on my acceptance - could you please in due course pass on my disappointment to whomever was responsible for this that they chose not to respect my wishes."

DP/H's next phone call with his mother started with her launching right into "If you're ringing to apologise, you're too late and it won't be sufficient" because apparently I "went ballistic" and "ruined the bride's big day" (we'd said nothing about it to her - indeed, I made sure to tell SIL we weren't going to bother B&G with this!).

We have since had no apology either from MIL or SIL. The only thing SIL had to offer - and this is where you MNers come in! - is "well, since I know you're married, I assumed your name was changed".

AFTER THAT ENTIRE CONVERSATION HE'D HAD WITH HER?!? AFTER MY ACCEPTANCE NOTE IN MY NAME?!? AAARRRGGGHHH!

Moreover, I am now bothered by the thought that if what SIL perceives to be my "married name" (I am gagging even typing this) was used, does that mean she spread the secret further? How many people now know?

I actually felt compelled to look up the legality of it, and confirmed what I'd thought I'd known: that name change is voluntary and through usage - though marriage is one of the reasons one might do it, it is not automatic. There is no legal "name change fairy".

So I know leagally where I stand, but what's general consensus? Looking forward to your thoughts.

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SquirtedPerfumeUpNoseInBoots · 12/06/2011 00:05

God almighty. Have u nothing else to worry about?

"DP is in fact DH. We'd had a non-legal shindig a year after we met,..."

You lost me there.

UrsulaBuffay · 12/06/2011 00:05

I know, I know & I told DH I'd be there an hour ago Grin

chunkythighs · 12/06/2011 00:07

BTW Op when I got married I kept my name until he died- I was proud to take his name......You really need to get a grip of what is important to get stressed about.

magicmelons · 12/06/2011 00:07

Why does it matter so much to you though? I love my name which is why i haven't changed it but doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, i certainly wouldn't fall out with anyone over it. I think you need to choose your battles tbh.

DuchessofPsmith · 12/06/2011 00:08

Maelstrom you pretty much prove my point with three words in your last line. It's not my "pre marriage name" - it is my name: was, is, ever shall be.

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magicmelons · 12/06/2011 00:09

x posts with everyone.

topazmcgonagall · 12/06/2011 00:12

YANBU

SpringHeeledJack · 12/06/2011 00:12

I don't like the white trash bit, but can see where you're coming from with the rest of it

thursday · 12/06/2011 00:14

YABmental. i snorted at you not letting a placecard ruin your evening. but clearly it DID because you felt you needed to be so rude as to lodge an official complaint on the day. so you didn't take you hustners name when you did/didn't get married but people sometimes annoy you by assuming you're your husbands wife. its no biggy! tbh, if i were them, i'd have done it on purpose to wind you up because you'd been so weirdy weirdy about getting married.

chunkythighs · 12/06/2011 00:14

Is your name the one that your mother took when she married your dad- or is the the name your grandmother took when she married your granddad?

Fifis25StottieCakes · 12/06/2011 00:15

Its not really a secret wedding if you invite DH's mother. Its not fair for you to expect her to keep it a secret.

You sound really nice, i bet she pleased her son married you Hmm

We didnt let it ruin our evening, no you just ruined eveyone elses by the sounds of it.

You sound like a childish, selfish snob TBH

Maelstrom · 12/06/2011 00:16

I stand by what I say, there are more important things in life that twisting yourself in a knot for a name. I love my name, I wouldn't change it, but I wouldn't make an issue about it. It is just a name, and I wouldn't forve my inlaws to pretend I have not married their son in order to keep a stupid name.

Good way to give yourself a difficult life out of something that is... worthless. You are not your name, but... you may be given your name a very very bad... name.

magicmelons · 12/06/2011 00:16

Actually i can't believe that you were this rude at someones wedding, its not all about you.

The night before my wedding i was up until about 2 in the morning finishing of the marquee and their was still a million things to do, i had a proper melt down and my mum sent me to bed. I left her to do all of the place cards and the table plan even though she didn't have the foggiest who half the people were, i have no idea if it worked out alright as i'm sure all our guests are far too polite to say. It's not all about you OP.

worraliberty · 12/06/2011 00:16

Loving the term hustners Grin

Maelstrom · 12/06/2011 00:17

forve? expect!

izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 12/06/2011 00:18

Is your marriage a BIG SECRET because it's bigamous? If not, I fail to understand why you've got your knickers in a twist over such trivia to the point of causing offence to your DH's family.

When departing a wedding breakfast/reception/shindig before the bride and groom, it is customary to thank them or the host(s) for their hospitality, make some flattering comments about the occasion, and wish the happy pair long wedded bliss.

Instead, it seems that you sat through the event wearing judgeypants and a cat's bum face, and failed to observe common courtesy when taking your leave

You were exceedingly U to have referred to names on placecards when leaving the wedding party, and it was OUTRAGEOUSLY RUDE of you to hand your placecard to your SIL and make such a pissy mean-minded statement.

I'm curious - if you had been invited to Buck House for W&K's wedding breakfast, would you have behaved in the same way if your married name had been on your placecard?

If the answer is 'yes' you are simply not fit for polite company.

If you love heat, do post again on the subject of the white trashiness of the wedding that someone paid good money for you to attend and I'll fire up my flame-thrower.

seeker · 12/06/2011 00:19

II'm not married and I hate ti when people call me Mrs dp'sname. I would hate it just as much if I was married. Yes, people should respect people's choices in this - can;t believe people are saying it doesn;t matter.

But the white-trash comment and the "Pease pass on my disappointment.." thing are both outrageous.

If you really used that extraordinarily pompous and rude.sentence to your sil then I wouln't worry, nobody in the family is going to call you anything ever again!

DuchessofPsmith · 12/06/2011 00:23

Ah, Chunky I see where you're going with this. It is both. And, yeah, that sucks - why can't our names go back via the women?

But it is the name I grew up with, became an adult with, etc. Moreover, I rather like and admire my paternal grandfather - he was a clever fellow, good businessman, honest, lots of good qualities to emulate.

Mother's side? Let's not go there.

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Mamaz0n · 12/06/2011 00:24

i think you are being ridiculously precious.

When you marry it is assumed that you take your husbands name. most people will automatically assume this.

YWBU to raise it with the bride on her wedding day. I think it was more about attention seeking than anything else.

why is your marriage such a secret? and why on earth do you gag at the mention of a married name?

I find the whole thing rather petty and utterly childish.

fgaaagh · 12/06/2011 00:24

YANBU.

People should respect what you prefer to be known by. Courtesy doesn't cost anything.

It's fucking rude of your relatives, tbh.

Just as rude as if you started calling them by their maiden name, or a randomly picked name.

It says a lot about them that they feel it's acceptable to do something against your wishes. Fair enough to assume what the majority of women to do once they're married, but once a correction has been made, then it shows more about them that they choose to ignore you, than it does about you.

I wouldn't waste my breathe with these people - they clearly don't respect your viewpoint.

Try and rise above it, whislt correcting them if the issue crops up. You don't have to complain loudly, but you can point out their inaccuracy / rudeness regularly and politely. Show them you're a better person than them, whilst making your point heard.

I'm sorry your relatives feel it's okay to treat you this way.

BagofHolly · 12/06/2011 00:25

Your namecard was wrong at a wedding you went to, of your husband's relatives. You ate their food, drank their drink, and then handed over the card with the corrected name on it? That's possibly THE rudest, most spectacularly self absorbed thing I think I've read on here! And you haven't had an apology and think they've been disrespectful to you? Good gracious!

And if the wedding was as unpleasant as the terminology you've used, you're lucky to have escaped the dressing down and verbal kick up the arse you clearly so richly deserve!

This has to be a wind-up, surely?

ihatecbeebies · 12/06/2011 00:28

If the big problem for your inlaws is you and DP/DH not sharing the same name then could your partner not just take your surname instead?

BooBearBoo · 12/06/2011 00:29

You did WHAT at a family wedding???????

Pandemoniaa · 12/06/2011 00:30

I'm not actually married to DP although quite a lot of people don't know that. I've also always used my own surname, even when married. But DP and I have been to events where my place card erroneously suggests I am Mrs DP but I've not been enraged by this mistake. These things happen occasionally and it really isn't necessary to be so far up oneself that you make rude and silly remarks to your hosts on departure.

Now I wouldn't necessarily assume that your comments would ruin a bride's day but it's not an acceptable way to repay hospitality and for sure, I'd make a mental note to strike whichever name you insist being known by off any future invitations.

d0gFace · 12/06/2011 00:31

This thread makes my head sad.

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