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to think people should respect my choice of name?

332 replies

DuchessofPsmith · 11/06/2011 23:22

I'm a regular MNer, but am writing under an assumed name (and using more fake names) for what's about to be obvious reasons.

DP is in fact DH. We'd had a non-legal shindig a year after we met, and told everybody that's that. And part of that was because during my previous marriage I was driven nuts by a few assholes misguided friends who'd refused to accept I hadn't changed my name: that it was still "Ms Psmith" not "Mrs Ahmed", so I really wanted to avoid giving anbody a reason to get it wrong again.

DP and I thought a bit later that it might be both pleasing to his mum, and protecting for me if anything should happen to him, to do the legal thing, so we secretly married, inviting only our mutual best friend and DH's mum as witness. We made it clear to both of them that this was to be kept secret, and that my name would remain "Ms Psmith".

Within days, the old bat made me regret inviting her, making jokes about total strangers asking "which Mrs Jones?" (as if they'd know). And within a few months DP/H and I were getting [holiday] cards from her relatives addressed to "Mr and Mrs Jones".

A few years went by. DP/H in the meantime heard from his sister that MIL had blabbed to her as well, but it wasn't officially General Knowledge. DP/H of course explained why this was, and all the stuff you read above, i.e. to respect my name.

We got invited to a wedding in her neck of the family; I sent hand-written acceptances using our two names. So, I was a but surprised to see my dinner placecard written as not "Jane Psmith" but "Jane Jones".

We didn't let it ruin our evening (although the general white-trashiness of the event was worthy of a whole 'nother thread). We stayed through dinner but left before the disco (my being 8 months pregnant proved useful for escape). On our way out, during the goodbye and pleasantries with SIL, I handed her my placecard and said "I am certain I spelled my name correctly on my acceptance - could you please in due course pass on my disappointment to whomever was responsible for this that they chose not to respect my wishes."

DP/H's next phone call with his mother started with her launching right into "If you're ringing to apologise, you're too late and it won't be sufficient" because apparently I "went ballistic" and "ruined the bride's big day" (we'd said nothing about it to her - indeed, I made sure to tell SIL we weren't going to bother B&G with this!).

We have since had no apology either from MIL or SIL. The only thing SIL had to offer - and this is where you MNers come in! - is "well, since I know you're married, I assumed your name was changed".

AFTER THAT ENTIRE CONVERSATION HE'D HAD WITH HER?!? AFTER MY ACCEPTANCE NOTE IN MY NAME?!? AAARRRGGGHHH!

Moreover, I am now bothered by the thought that if what SIL perceives to be my "married name" (I am gagging even typing this) was used, does that mean she spread the secret further? How many people now know?

I actually felt compelled to look up the legality of it, and confirmed what I'd thought I'd known: that name change is voluntary and through usage - though marriage is one of the reasons one might do it, it is not automatic. There is no legal "name change fairy".

So I know leagally where I stand, but what's general consensus? Looking forward to your thoughts.

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StewieGriffinsMom · 11/06/2011 23:43

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ScaredyDog · 11/06/2011 23:43

YABU and a bit of a tit. Sounds like you did kick off in a nasty, passive aggressive sense.

I handed her my placecard and said "I am certain I spelled my name correctly on my acceptance - could you please in due course pass on my disappointment to whomever was responsible for this that they chose not to respect my wishes."

Gah. I bet you've dressed that conversation up in its finery as well and it probably was spat out at the poor SIL. As for the white trash disco, bet they were more down to earth and enjoyed themselves a shitload more than you did!

I'm not married to DP, hope to be, soon. But if I got an invite to "Mr and Mrs ScaredyCat" rather than "Mr SacredyCat and Ms ScaredyDog" I wouldn't say a word, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

You sound incredibly precious.

worraliberty · 11/06/2011 23:43

Why do you call him DP/DH?

He is your Husband and you are his Wife Confused

Really though, I'd save your battle energy for something worthwhile getting stressed over. Life is too short.

I often wonder what the MN outcry would be if it were common for the Husband to take the Wife's surname and the Husband acted all snotty about it.

There'd be cries of "Leave the bastard..if he's not proud to take your surname, he's not worth it" Grin

teenidentity · 11/06/2011 23:43

YABU and a bit weird.

GooGooGadget · 11/06/2011 23:43

I think I might be the only person who has understood the point, and but I'm pissed.

YANBU. you are your name.You get to decide what you are called. You had a 'secret' wedding to avoid this shit, and made the schoolboy error of inviting mIL.

You are ms Psmith. That is your name.

However, only you care about this. keep telling them, but don't expect anyone to be sensitive about your feelings if they get it wrong as they will nt give the tiniest crap.

YANBU though.

Jonnyfan · 11/06/2011 23:44

Yawn.

triskaidekaphile · 11/06/2011 23:44

Oh. So it's to stop people erroneously referring to you as Mrs husbandssurname? Can't you just say we're married and I'm keeping my surname? I know lots of sexist bananaheads will forget/refuse but they can be ignored/mildly scolded. Pretending never to have married seems a bit ott to me, I must admit. I would never take another surname either and find it mildly annoying (and reflective of the sexism of our society) if people mistakenly call me Mrs partnerssurname but I usually just say "no. my surname is XXXXX" I wouldn't make a big issue of it on a placename at a wedding. Actually the last wedding we went to my partner's nameplace said Mr trisk and he seemed quite chuffed!

redrollers · 11/06/2011 23:44

Can't make head nor tail of it, sorry, off to bed.

AgentZigzag · 11/06/2011 23:45

Fairieswearboots? As in Black Sab?

Just heard that for the first time in aages last night, fucking brilliant song (I wouldn't go to the dr though)

sodiumion · 11/06/2011 23:45

"DP/H" is irritating me.

Make your mind up.

SomethingProfound · 11/06/2011 23:45

Why are you getting so worked up about this and making such a song and dance over it? Does it really matter that at a family wedding your surname was wrong. Think your being a bit over sensitive to be honest.

worraliberty · 11/06/2011 23:47

I bet Judy Finnigan never had this problem Grin

DamselInDisarray · 11/06/2011 23:50

If you're going to get married in secret, don't invite anyone at all or tell anyone. That seems to be the moral of the story.

Just make an announcement that you are married and that you haven't changed your name.

HerHissyness · 11/06/2011 23:50

Agrees with GooGooGadget!

magicmelons · 11/06/2011 23:53

YABU

I haven't changed my name since I married but I accept that will always be people who will call me Mrs married name, school, dh's Grandma, wedding invites (because people always get very carried away by etiquette at a wedding)

The only time i'm a bit Hmm is that my own Dad sends me letters addressed to my married name, i'm sure he's making a statement in that he thinks i should change it but i don't care enough to mention it. It would certainly never spoil my day.

I do think its ridiculous that people expect you to change names, surely its personal choice.

CurrySpice · 11/06/2011 23:55

op I did read that far and I souls say you sounded far from polite at the wedding. I'd go as far as to say you sounded rude and self -obsessed. I think you need to get over yourself a bit. YABVDU

DuchessofPsmith · 11/06/2011 23:59

"DP/H" makes perfect sense to me, Partner is the term that can cover husband, significant boyfriend, girlfriend, etc. It's a good thing to say when you don't know what to call somebody, when "loved one" might sound a bit too cutesy, etc. One can be a husband AND a partner.

I'm sorry I mentioned the wedding, because people are really fixated on it now. DP and I gave no indication by looks or words or etc that we thought it was "white trash" - it's just what we've talked about between ourselves, and I mistakenly entrusted to you guys.

But, no, I'm not "ashamed" to be part of the family. The problems DP & I have with the family are almost entirely about them not respecting us, and nothing to do with socio-economic class thingumy, which is complex and certainly doesn't involve us looking down on them in that regard.

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chinam · 12/06/2011 00:01

Agree wholeheartedly with CurrySpice. I am awarding you my my very first Biscuit.

CurrySpice · 12/06/2011 00:01

Sorry op but you are sounding more and more pompous by the post.

UrsulaBuffay · 12/06/2011 00:02

Do they think you're stuck up by any chance?

teenidentity · 12/06/2011 00:02

I also think it was incredibly rude of you to say what you did at the wedding.

You need to get over yourself imo.

Maelstrom · 12/06/2011 00:04

I never changed my name, no need to get married in secret, I didn't give hoot whatever people thought about not changing my name and nobody commented. Although I noticed that people simply assumed we were not married.

If they confused the surnames... no big deal. He was often called Mr Maelstrom even when he never changed his name either. NEither of us cared about being addressed with each other surnames, it is not really important you know?

IMO you are very unreasonable to go into such extremes to protect your pre marriage name. If I were a relative of you, I would think you are bonkers.

DuchessofPsmith · 12/06/2011 00:05

Oi, Ursula - you said you were going to bed! I don't know if they'd say "stuck up" but they've probably said "bitch" more than once. I'm OK with that: "A man with an opinion is a man, a woman with an opinion is a bitch" (Greta Garbo, I think)

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chunkythighs · 12/06/2011 00:05

This is the funniest thing I've read in ages. OP your in laws are calling you by your married name (Grin) because you are so easy to get a rise out of. God if I knew you I'd do it all day!!!!

What in the name of God are you going to do with your childs name? Change the surname every second day?

worraliberty · 12/06/2011 00:05

I think you need to get over yourself..seriously.

"White trash" is a very offensive term for white people who are poor.

You're coming across as a self important spoilt twat with nothing to worry about other than the fact you want to keep your wonderful surname and other people might make the mistake of thinking your "DP" is actually your Husband...which like it or not, he is Hmm