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to think people should respect my choice of name?

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DuchessofPsmith · 11/06/2011 23:22

I'm a regular MNer, but am writing under an assumed name (and using more fake names) for what's about to be obvious reasons.

DP is in fact DH. We'd had a non-legal shindig a year after we met, and told everybody that's that. And part of that was because during my previous marriage I was driven nuts by a few assholes misguided friends who'd refused to accept I hadn't changed my name: that it was still "Ms Psmith" not "Mrs Ahmed", so I really wanted to avoid giving anbody a reason to get it wrong again.

DP and I thought a bit later that it might be both pleasing to his mum, and protecting for me if anything should happen to him, to do the legal thing, so we secretly married, inviting only our mutual best friend and DH's mum as witness. We made it clear to both of them that this was to be kept secret, and that my name would remain "Ms Psmith".

Within days, the old bat made me regret inviting her, making jokes about total strangers asking "which Mrs Jones?" (as if they'd know). And within a few months DP/H and I were getting [holiday] cards from her relatives addressed to "Mr and Mrs Jones".

A few years went by. DP/H in the meantime heard from his sister that MIL had blabbed to her as well, but it wasn't officially General Knowledge. DP/H of course explained why this was, and all the stuff you read above, i.e. to respect my name.

We got invited to a wedding in her neck of the family; I sent hand-written acceptances using our two names. So, I was a but surprised to see my dinner placecard written as not "Jane Psmith" but "Jane Jones".

We didn't let it ruin our evening (although the general white-trashiness of the event was worthy of a whole 'nother thread). We stayed through dinner but left before the disco (my being 8 months pregnant proved useful for escape). On our way out, during the goodbye and pleasantries with SIL, I handed her my placecard and said "I am certain I spelled my name correctly on my acceptance - could you please in due course pass on my disappointment to whomever was responsible for this that they chose not to respect my wishes."

DP/H's next phone call with his mother started with her launching right into "If you're ringing to apologise, you're too late and it won't be sufficient" because apparently I "went ballistic" and "ruined the bride's big day" (we'd said nothing about it to her - indeed, I made sure to tell SIL we weren't going to bother B&G with this!).

We have since had no apology either from MIL or SIL. The only thing SIL had to offer - and this is where you MNers come in! - is "well, since I know you're married, I assumed your name was changed".

AFTER THAT ENTIRE CONVERSATION HE'D HAD WITH HER?!? AFTER MY ACCEPTANCE NOTE IN MY NAME?!? AAARRRGGGHHH!

Moreover, I am now bothered by the thought that if what SIL perceives to be my "married name" (I am gagging even typing this) was used, does that mean she spread the secret further? How many people now know?

I actually felt compelled to look up the legality of it, and confirmed what I'd thought I'd known: that name change is voluntary and through usage - though marriage is one of the reasons one might do it, it is not automatic. There is no legal "name change fairy".

So I know leagally where I stand, but what's general consensus? Looking forward to your thoughts.

OP posts:
izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 12/06/2011 19:02

"You mentioned it perfectly politely at the wedding and you should have received an apology*

Are you a sock puppet lisianthus?

Test yourself by rearranging these words 'didn't no she oh' and coming up with a rejoinder.

ihatecbeebies · 12/06/2011 19:06

I missed the sock puppet that let it slip about her childs name but I think someone else mentioned it, I looked through the posts though and couldn't find anything?

LadyBeagleEyes · 12/06/2011 19:12

If anyone would like to pm me about all this cryptic stuff please do.
I'm dying here of curiosity.

EXlovely · 12/06/2011 19:12

Duchess, which surname will your unborn child have? Please be aware the surname of your child MAY cause further confusion in the future depending on what you decide!

bufforpingtonchick · 12/06/2011 19:14

gwen Grin

I think you have highlighted a flaw in my own recent namechange there! Hmm I'll be 'buffy' I think Smile

nancydrewfoundaclue · 12/06/2011 19:34

missed the second sock puppet but pretty sure the Op gave away her real ID when naming the triplets....oops!

Clytaemnestra · 12/06/2011 19:49

nancydrew - when she said they were called Thor, Razor and Spudulika Bikergangbang? :) That was a giveaway? Is she also on babynames vacillitating between Razor and Tumbledrier as first name for triplet 2?

:)

giveitago · 12/06/2011 19:50

YANBU for wanting to keep your name but you are being very obsessive about it. I find the posts a bit disturbing particularly as op has a tendency to talk about her and her dp/dh as one unit - we said this - we did the right thing - we felt etc. Not sure if it's wierd or just plain bitchy to her ils.

I didn't change my name after marriage party because we were mad busy and I couldn't be bothered to go through the admin. Also my dh's name sounds lovely in his language and pure comedy in enlglish.

Also - it was for cultural reasons. I look like I'm from my dh's country and if I'm with dh I'm almost always mistaken for his nationality. I'm constantly having to speak his language and talked to as though I'm of that culture. It's tiring so keeping my birth name (not a great one) makes me feel I'm keeping a tiny bit of a part of my family heritage.

But I get lots of mail addressed to Mrs dhname - I'm certainly not offended.

When parents divorced I said I wanted my mum's maiden name (hugely glamorous). But my dm 20 years post divorce didn't change her name back so I thought it pointless to use her maiden name if she wasn't using it.

Lots of things are a bit pointless. All the admin re changing names (I was told I needed the original certificate sent to each one of my bank accounts and credit cards, ndh cards - the entire bloody lot) is a hassle but getting all upset at a few people winding you up re your name is also pointless.

DS has DH's name and it's a hassle for me as I've been told that I need to carry his birth certificate if I travel alone with him. But it's a small price. I know I'm his mum, he knows I'm his mum. Rather that than give poor ds both our surnames which is a horrible combination.

sodiumion · 12/06/2011 19:51

£50 this is a joke thread Grin

Btw, pinotgrigo , there is one thing missing... The nazis and their view on a cash only bar..........

HavePatience · 12/06/2011 21:16

oh I had no idea it was a joke. That makes more sense. I can't really see an adult getting this worked up over something like this - and certainly not the wedding scenario. Reality restored :)

xstitch · 12/06/2011 21:22

Joke? Well I don't find it very funny. Tried to be reasonable and fair and get flamed for it. Will fuck off now to work on my trashy wedding. Don't worry OP there will be no place cards so I can't offend that way at least.

Pixieonthemoor · 12/06/2011 21:23

"we didnt let it ruin our evening"?????? You handed your SIL your place card and made a point at the event????? I can understand that you might be irritated that you want to keep your own name but I really think you are going WAY over the top about this and have actually been very rude, even though you seem to think you were courteous. Get over yourself.

PinotGrigiosKittens · 12/06/2011 21:27

Ha sodium! :)

JoniRules · 12/06/2011 21:29

I'm sorry to say that I think YAB a little U. Obviously keeping your name is really important to you but it does sound as though you are getting it a bit out of perspective. You sound ultra sensitive about it. If you feel secure in yourself about your decision and your choice then it shouldn't bother you to the extent that it clearly does. IMO you're getting way to worked up about it

redexpat · 12/06/2011 21:31

YANBU. It's basic respect to get someone's name and title right.

emsyj · 12/06/2011 21:33

How about the 'basic respect' of not behaving like an arsehole at a wedding, redexpat?

fairieswearboots · 12/06/2011 21:38

agentzigzag - yes, Black Sabbath indeed!

TheSnickeringFox · 12/06/2011 21:40

God this thread is confusing.

redwineformethanks · 12/06/2011 21:46

Sorry too tired to read whole thread, but I think ............

...........it's NBU to maintain your own surname, that is your choice

............a bit weird to not get married but not want people to know about it (If my DH didn't want people to know we were married, I'd worry he was ashamed of me)

.................very rude to make your comment to the SIL about the place cards.

My SIL in law chose not to take our surname as her married name. I think it's a bit of a shame but am content to respect her choice. I sympathise that some of my older relatives have not taken this on board, and I'd be happy to have a quiet word with any of them, but I would not expect her to mention it during an event - I think it's rude

caughtinanet · 12/06/2011 22:01

Funny thread - has the whole of MN gone sockpuppet mad ? Surely Ionlyfoundoutlater assumed the bride was the SIL's daughter because the OP thanked her for the wedding which would suggest she was the mother of the bride or groom.

OP - I can see why you want to be called by the name you prefer and it makes you cross when people deliberately ignore that, basic manners on their part should come into play even if they think you're a bit strange for not changing your name.

CadleCrap · 12/06/2011 22:07

caughtinanet Where does it say "OP thanked her for the wedding which would suggest she was the mother of the bride or groom". I can't find it!!

Ooo!! Do I get a prize for spotting #No3???

Grin
EmilyHallow · 12/06/2011 22:12

I think obviously you have the right to choose whether to keep your maiden name or take your husband's, but you have to accept that most people will assume the latter. I don't really see why it's such a big deal...? :)

TheSnickeringFox · 12/06/2011 22:24

Who was number two?

5DollarShake · 12/06/2011 22:27

Crikey, this thread is a bit of an eye-opener. Have I wandered into 1953?

*"IMHO one of the valid reasons for retaining your maiden name would be for professional reasons so it would not matter one jot of the family called you Mrs husband's name as you were not attending the wedding in your professional capacity."

Valid reason...? Hmm Valid bloody reason?!? Grin One perfectly valid reason for retaining your maiden name is because you want to. End of. Just like ALL men get to by default, when they get married.

Ask a random selection of men if they want to change their name to their wives' when they get married, and see what sort of a response you get back.

So yes, then it does matter one jot if the wrong name is used, since it's not the OP's name.

However, as I've already said before, the OP was incredibly rude to bring it up at the wedding. "We didn't let it ruin our evening". No, but you had no problem passing on your gripe to the mother of the bride and ruining theirs....

And didn't I see some reference to spudulika by the OP, when discussing children's surnames? Isn't that who the OP actually is? She said it herself, so I can't see how I'm doing anything naughty by referencing it. :)

izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 12/06/2011 22:29

Will you be having a pay-as-you-munch buffet as well as a pay bar for your guests xstitich?

And will you be wearing a huge light-up meringue and will your dh/hustner/partband's face be obscured throughout the proceedings?

If not, you'll be in mortal danger of having the world and his dw/pafe/winer knowing you got wed and to whom, and run the risk of your ILs referring to you as Mrs Noballs - or whatever your intended's surname may be.

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