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David Cameron welfare reforms-no family will receive more than £25,000 a year.

748 replies

Hammy02 · 11/06/2011 16:12

Good idea? I think so. I can't believe a single family receives this much already in benefits. It is about the same as the average income so it would be ridiculous for any one family to have more in benefits than someone that works?

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Peachy · 15/06/2011 15:39

Why would you not do it there if you are prepared to upset carers and disabled people on here?

Serious question.

I'd actually have more respect for the MN controversial posters if they dared to say in RL what tehy feel free to chuck about on here: they don't though of course. They need anonymity and a sense of protection becuase after all, they only say what everyone else thinks, right?

And if you think ah but I woudln;t actually aim abuse- these threads give the people who are likely to overstep boundaries fuel and a sense of belonging to some rightfully oppressed group.

Glitter I'm the same; it's funny, hurl abuse at me and i'll most likely agree! Hurl abuse at my Dh or kids and I can't help but defend. there's a pint though where it becomes like picking a scab and a form of self harm: watch out for that.

Glitterknickaz · 15/06/2011 15:39

You have no problem with saying some pretty damn horrific stuff on a public forum, so why not?
Or are you the kind of coward who can only spout his odious tripe from behind a screen?

You do know that you may as well just come up to me in the street and hiss at me for producing defective kids, the end result is the same?

Do you have any concept of the effect of your posts on real, human beings? Or are you going to cop out with the 'words on a screen' shit?

Peachy · 15/06/2011 15:43

He is I imagine self jusifying 'as a tax payer' or 'it's just my valid view'.

It's his view, I would dispute valid: it lacks arguments and statistics, is devoid of substance. Of depth.

Yet DH is a taxpayer. I have been for most of my adult life. And I would never have denied a disabled person or carer a penny.

Shoesytwoesy · 15/06/2011 15:44

wonder what rob the banker would do if his baby was disbled because the hospital fucked up, or a accident.
perhaps he would just shoot them.

TheHumanCatapult · 15/06/2011 15:44

Rob F

you dont believ ethinsg go belly up

Well i was married happily i thought not rolling on money but we did ok xh worked f/t i worked p/t around the kids we could afford to run a car and have a holiday each year not fancy but we was doing ok .

Ds3 born still ok ds hot 6 months and became obvious he was not ok .Xh struggled to look after ds3 when i worked so i stopped we tightened our belts and we coped ds3 hit a year and xh said I am sorry i can not do this any more it makes me depressed ( not fun hearing all the things your son will ro might not do ) so he took his depression and walked out .

No choice bar benefits .He took half teh savings and the car .leaving me with 4dc one disabkled needing full time care benefits here i come .

So yes i become a scrounger or a carer ( 34p houe since it is classed as working i lose is .hmm me thinks i earn jsut bit below the minimum wage )

Then we come to the sting .Around 4 months ago I had a small fall but that small fall was unlucky i landed on small brick and a un diagnosied condtion caused damage to my spinal cord cue ending in in a wheelchair and with bowel and bladder problems .

so how on earth was i meant to predict all that .Gues smy crystall ball was having a off day .Must been all these big flat screen tv causing interfearance Wink

borderslass · 15/06/2011 15:46

Why would you be different in RL you spouted a load of crap about children who can't defend themselves whats to stop you doing it in the street. We've lived this for years and know what its like.

TheHumanCatapult · 15/06/2011 15:46

opps and bad spelling

See Rob prooves the point that we have been saying to mnhq.When they say but it is a chance to educate people when they leave threads standing .Well mnhq we tried but some people just can not be educated

GabbyLoggon · 15/06/2011 15:47

there was a row about cancer patients and benefits on PMQs anyone hear it?

Peachy · 15/06/2011 15:47

Shoesy BIL is similarish profession

He said he'd give a disabled child up for care, and he would not argue against late termination.

given that DNephew was in SCBu for moths that's scary- and considered!

Peachy · 15/06/2011 15:47

(by late termination, he meant after birth)

Peachy · 15/06/2011 15:48

I didn;t Gabby, have learned to avoid Qt and PMQ now: makes me too angry

Shoesytwoesy · 15/06/2011 15:53

peachy does he realise you don't know untill they are born, sorry your BIL is vile

Riveninside · 15/06/2011 15:55

Dont want to even mention eugenics after that dreadful woman.

borderslass · 15/06/2011 15:56

We think it was because of DS that mil & sil started all their shite as an excuse to not have us in their lives. MIL actually told me in front of DS aged about 7 that her sister was put in a home as she wasn't right in the head.BITCH.

Peachy · 15/06/2011 15:58

Yes shoesy but he thinks he is the model of sense and well.... I don't.

EdwardorEricCantDecide · 15/06/2011 15:58

Shock wouldn't that be murder?

Shoesytwoesy · 15/06/2011 15:59

would he like to meet my dh peachy? he loves a ruck

buttonmoon78 · 15/06/2011 16:00

I am speechless at the implications on here this afternoon.

I am impressed that peachy and glitter in particular have not spontaneously combusted.

Riveninside · 15/06/2011 16:13

What about Carers? Most already live in poverty. This cap is seriously goi to effect those. Or should they put their caree into residential care, have a life and cost the taxpayer £100.000. Year?

Glitterknickaz · 15/06/2011 16:18

hmm, I did get sweary, buttonmoon..... Wink
I'm wondering what some of the posters on here really want tbh... are they actually trying to bag their first suicide?

buttonmoon78 · 15/06/2011 16:22

Yes but I don't see any flames... As I say, I'm impressed.

Actually, how is this different from that poor lady who killed herself and her daughter following years of abuse from local kids?

Oh, that's right. We all know that what is said on MN is just words, right? Hmm

xstitch · 15/06/2011 16:35

After birth?. You mean infanticide? He is disgusting.

Ok how things went wrong. First my husband decided he didn't love me. I could manage fine financially. He kept letting himself in, he had raped me durimg the break up so wanted to feel safe again. I bought him out by increasing the mortgage and therefore increasing my outgoings.

Then massive bill for building work he skipped out on came in, I had to pay that making a big dent in my savings. Then the £500 phone bill he had rung up by letting himself in while I was at work and calling premium rate lines.

Then I lost my job. Two months after initial becoming a single mum.. I tried to keep going job hunting and living off my savings. Eventually found a job but only 12hrs a week. Continued looking for more work without sucess. Put the house up for sale, it took a long to sell and ended up having to let it go cheaply to avoid repossession and ended up homeless. Bunked down with relatives and it is only recently that I put in a claim. I am still job hunting and it is now 3 years since it all started.

Peachy · 15/06/2011 16:36

Glitter it really is going to happen one day isn't it?

Still, one less ofdf benefits (actually isn;t widowed parents more thanc arers so....... >

Peachy · 15/06/2011 16:38

Shoesy oh how I wish he could meet your DH (actually even my mild dh wasn;t told until after we'd got back home becuase he's only human after all and advocating murder of disbaled kids in front of our 2 is a bit.... well yes)

wideawakenurse · 15/06/2011 16:40

I am stunned by some of the opinions on here this afternoon.

On a personal level, these cuts will have no impact on my life. - I don't receive benefits or tax credits etc. However, I cannot believe that some people are so clearly begrudging of helping support some of societies most vulnerable people. I cannot even imagine what it would be like to be in the shoes of some of the posters here.

How on earth can anyone question the financial support these families need?