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AIBU?

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To think Prince Phillip is great?

312 replies

joogle · 09/06/2011 21:14

I love this guy, AIBU?

OP posts:
catinthehat2 · 11/06/2011 17:50

Can I just say that Prince Philip is surprisingly wee in real life?
I thought he would be 6ft plus plus plus
He is considerably less (an effect of age I guess)

I reckon Her Maj must be 4'8" In Heels

BornInAfrica · 11/06/2011 17:54

My point is that everything i have observed of Prince Phillip is that he is ia racist, rude, sexist and has never done anything of any value to society in his life

That seriously has to take the prize for the most small minded, ill-informed and cerebrally stunted piece of verbal diahorrea that I have ever read. You sound like a very angry dissatisfied small little person with a very very big sour chip on your shoulder.

Animation · 11/06/2011 17:58

I personally don't view him in black and white terms - as being all good or all bad. Seems like a WHOLE kind of person to me really with many aspects to his personality - that will involve both negative and positive traits - as we all have.

I like the fact that he seems quite real - with no pretences like many celebrities seem to exhibit in these kind of interviews.

cory · 11/06/2011 18:00

Ok BIA- is it still ok to point out that:

a) the remark to Stroessner was highly inappropriate from a representative of a democratic country

b) the remark after the Dunblane disaster showed remarkable insensitivity towards the victims of the disaster

c) the slitty eye remark and the remark he made in Papua New Guinea were rude to his hosts- which is something his generation were generally brought up to be very careful about

d) the unemployment remark shows how little imagination and was again inappopriate for someone who is, somehow, supposed to represent the nation

If all these were so innocuous, how come the Queen doesn't do this sort of thing? Nor do the Royalties of most other European countries.

No chip here- just pointing out the obvious.

exoticfruits · 11/06/2011 18:02

You should never take a fool too lightly, they are often up to more than first appears.

Very true-it is often deliberate and they are anything but.

seeker · 11/06/2011 18:08

"My point is that everything i have observed of Prince Phillip is that he is ia racist, rude, sexist and has never done anything of any value to society in his life

That seriously has to take the prize for the most small minded, ill-informed and cerebrally stunted piece of verbal diahorrea that I have ever read. You sound like a very angry dissatisfied small little person with a very very big sour chip on your shoulder."

Eh?

seeker · 11/06/2011 18:10

"Yes Seeker - you are getting to the nitty gritty now!"

I think I actually said exactly the same at the beginning of the thread!

cory · 11/06/2011 18:51

I think, Animation, that what you call pretence is what many of us would call manners. And work rather hard on inculcating into our own children.

I do not think he is a bad man, but I do think he is remarkably ill-mannered, and that this is something a strong argument against his value as a representative of the nation. The Queen otoh does her job.

seeker · 11/06/2011 19:07

Please BornInAfrica come back and tell me what you mean! Your insults were wonderful, but they made no sense at all. Please come back at try again!

frillyflower · 11/06/2011 19:15

BorninAfrica - are you Prince Philip?

BornInAfrica · 11/06/2011 20:32

Sadly not

BornInAfrica · 11/06/2011 20:32

I can't see what doesn't make sense - perhaps try reading them the right way up?

seeker · 11/06/2011 20:46

OK. Start by telling me why you disagree so strongly with my statement that he is racist, rude, sexist and not a net contributer to society. I would provide you with references, but cory has saved me the trouble.

And carry on with a justification for your personal attack, which is baffling in the extreme.

RamblingRosa · 11/06/2011 20:54

FWIW, I'm with you Seeker.

This thread is like some weird parallel universe. I actually thought maybe it was a spoof and everyone was being sarcastic and I didn't get the joke Confused

I'm amazed that so many people seem to like the old bigot and seem happy to apologise or make excuses for his racism.

Primalscream · 11/06/2011 21:05

Maybe people like him because he's interesting and has a sense of humour.
I'd rather be in his company than yours. You sound like a crushing bore tbh.

seeker · 11/06/2011 21:09

Well, there are certaily people on this thread who could give him a run for his money on rudeness.

I struggle to see how somebody can be "interesting" when they say about 3 things a year - usually rude or tactless!

RamblingRosa · 11/06/2011 21:11

Well I guess it's horses for courses. You think he's interesting and has a sense of humour. I don't. I just think he's a racist bigot.

Not sure what the "crushing bore" is based on TBH Confused. You may well be right but it seems a bit harsh based on that one post.

ajandjjmum · 11/06/2011 21:51

Do you honestly think that if someone took a dozen random statements you had made throughout your life Seeker, they couldn't be chosen to indicate that you are racist, rude, sexist and not a net contributor to society?

He is an individual who the press have never really taken to, and he has been portrayed in a very negative way. Of course he's made mistakes, but isn't it telling that the same old quotes that are 15/20 years old keep being regurgitated. If he was that bad, there'd be hundreds to choose from!

I think that he is being treated more gently by the press now, and about time too.

Of course he's not perfect - and I suspect neither are you!

And he is not kept at the taxpayers expense!!!! Get your facts straight.

seeker · 11/06/2011 22:26

I'm sure they could. But somebody else could come along and pick another dozen that made me look completely different. This is not the case for Prince P! I keep asking for things he's said that DON"T make him look like a racist sexist etc....and nonody has come up with any!

I repeat. What has he said or done that make people thik he's a National Treasure?

ajandjjmum · 11/06/2011 22:37

Because - to be fair - none of us have access to him. We are steered by the press, and we all know how reliable they are, and how they are only interested in gaffes. But there are many people who have met him who say how interested and supportive he seemed to their cause/organisation - unfortunately that doesn't make for good reading!

We know he doesn't suffer fools gladly - like his daughter - and some people appreciate that aspect of his character, although others do.

Just like with 'normal' people - some we like, some we don't.

seeker · 11/06/2011 22:47

I like to make judgments about people on what they say and do, not what I imagine they might say or do or what I would like them to say or do.

I feel completely neutral towards the Queen, because she never says or does anything which gives me any evidence to make a judgement about her as a person ether way.

Prince P has never said or done anything publically which would allow anyone who thinks about things to make a positive judgment about him. Has he? Honestly? Certainly nobody on this thread has been able to come up with anything!

Primalscream · 11/06/2011 23:00

I like his nature and his authenticity - and if he's good enough for the queen he's good enough for me.

Sometimes you just like someone for themselves - not for a long list of 'achievements' -

BornInAfrica · 11/06/2011 23:01

Personal attack? It was an attack on the ineffable ullage that you posted, not you. How could it be personal to you? Do I know you? No.

I do have to say though that you oh-so-frightfully-PC people are absolutely killing the English language and trying hard to kill any humour/light-hearted banter or plain observation in your quest to reduce everything to a sanitised version that passes inspection by the thought police.

Primalscream · 11/06/2011 23:05

so true Borninafrica -

SpringHeeledJack · 11/06/2011 23:08

fucking hell!