to think that MN is descending into class war?

[Hullygully]

Today I have read a comment that someone's potential home looks like "a council house on a sink estate," seen a debate about "chav fashion," vile comments about "Poor Kids" etc and seen numerous threads over the past few days where people fight to gang up together against the infesting lower orders with their bad grammar, poor articulation, txt spk and poor spelling.

WTF people?

It is snobbery. Nothing else.

in the metaphorical sense

literally would be very wrong

Yes but it's not real

I'm going to go eat seven cunt pies.

It bloody is

how very dare question my worshipful crushes.

I prefer fuka pies myself

OK, late late late to thread, BUT incase this point has not already been made, the very folk who are criticised for text speak and hunning and the very same folk who look down on chavs and are very right wing............so to say there is a class divide is prob right, but in your OP Hully you have it wrong re who is who in the divide.

Anyhoo........on you go re soda bread and cunts etc.........

Haven't seen the threads of which you speak, Hully. But nastiness is always to be deplored.

Actually I find I'm a bit more polite (politer?) here than I am in real life. Though adding all those 'I don't wish to be rude/please don't take this the wrong way' bits to my posts takes so much time that I find it hard to keep up with a thread.

I once thought I was a bit snippy on a thread to a particular poster, so I posted an apology to her. Turned out she didn't find my original post offensive, but thought I was having a go at her in my apology post. Oh dear...

Oh, and I used to like that PinotGrigiosKittens, until she said, "I can't help but loathe text speak as I can't understand it. I use proper punctuation in my text messages. It makes me feel old and that just won't do. I am 36 and I don't want to be an old gimmer until I am at least...? 50? Yes - 50 is the point at which I accept my opinion is outdated."

I am 51.

So please don't listen to me.

Oh I'd hate her too for that. But I'm only 45 so I don't need to hate her for another 6 years. Pag, you need to start hating her now - you are very old.

I loathe text speak too but I am painfully slow at texting and I don't punctuate my texts because a) I don't know how b) there would not be enough hour in the day. I'd be better off crafting my missive with a slab of stone and a chisel, and sending it on a horse and cart.

My kids always hoot with derision at my texts because I write 'essays' apparently.

FunnysInTheGarden Ouch! I can't get my head round textspeak and find all the hunstuff a bit cringy and I'm blooming well not even a little tiny bit right wing and whatever the word for a rural Chav with a flexible attitude is I am one and a big fat one at that!

Bollocks.

I have failed, epically. In my very crap defence, you all seem so very young and sprightly.

And my peers are all seemingly literate in this text thing, leaving me with a virtual zimmer frame. I quote a friends status on fb yesterday..

"Well, luvers, bet yur well jel now"

SEE WHAT I'M UP AGAINST? My compadre is 36 and speaks like this?!

I would have said "Well, wonderful facebookers, I bet you're feeling an inkling of jealousy now aren't you my lovelies" (well I wouldn't, because a) holiday pics are yawnsome and b) I wouldn't want to provoke jealousy)

So I feel like a 50yr old in comparison.

I now see the error of my ways and retract my ageism wholeheartedly. Apologies. 50 is the new 30 anyway. And I'm "well jel" that you all have the wisdom ahead of me.

Can I stop digging into my hole now?

Apologies. 50 is the new 30 anyway

Does that mean 36 in the new 16

I wonder what chavs are called in rural locations. We dont call them Chav's in the NE. They are called Charva's. This has been going since i was a teenager (6). In fact i think geordies invented Chavs as well at Stottie Cakes.

I am still intrigued as to what park of the country are selling battered jam fritters

As my grandmother always says: The only people who discuss class are those who have none.

I live in a rural location and we have chavs for anyone who diplays such tendencies, however its hard to stop them as our nearest shopping town is a designer outlet mall, so designer works out the same price as Primark

Mostly in my town its "those bastard bloody kids" and "boring old losers".

I heard my ds say "chav" a while ago and asked him to desist with immediate effect. He looked a bit surprised but agreed and asked what he should say instead. If you must say anything, I said, what about "young local boy?"

They still go on and on and on about it. "Look at the young local boys setting fire to that car, mother." etc etc. Bastards.

They call 'em Young Old Boys round here ... So that makes me a Not Very Young Old Girl ... Charming!

When I think of chav I think of Daniella 'no-nose' Westbrook bedecked in Burberry with Burberry buggy and child in head to toe Burberry. I don't associate it with Primarni. Disclaimer - I live in bumpkinshire, we have no Primark within seagull throwing distance. Even the Co-op is a bit 'woo' where I am.

I think this is quite interesting

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charva

I agree with Pinot. A wide variety of people are classed as Charva's. Round my way this include the youngin's and also people dressed like TOWIES iyswim. At one time it was just the teenagers dressed in Berghauses.

The garments of choice round my way are Superdry coats, Duck and cover and Abbercome and Fitch. Now i know this as my brother is a bit of a pretty boy and he said that people with the money buy nice clothes, then the council estaters start wearing them, they get called charver garments and the whole thing starts again IYSWIM.

this is quite interesting

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charva

Got abnesia there