to believe that most feminists are in actual fact giving women a bad name?

[Casey76]

I, along with most women I imagine are grateful that women fought to give us a vote.....

However I believe that things have gone to far..I hate women who moan and bitch about how they can't have everything!!!!!!!!

No your damn right you can not have everything ...if you go to work full time when your children are young, YOU WILL MISS OUT!!!!!

Why should women have it all???

I believe that most feminists think that they are more worthy of having everything then men and guess what you are wrong...men dont have it all...most men still work full time and still miss out on their children..

Men used to provide for their families...Men used to have a little pride...I don't think that that those women all those years ago wanted things to go this far...where some women see men as useless and think they can do everthing with out them..including having children...fair enough if you split up and you end up a single mum thats one thing but choosing to have a baby alone is just plain selfish....women should not be allowed to use a sperm doner if they are single..

So you feminists who think you are better then men and that you can have everything..YOU ARE WRONG...I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Why are there so many people asking the OP, "Do you know what a feminist is?" Do feminists know what feminists are? They all seem to have very different opinions.

Jeez AyeRobot you still here?

BeerTricksPotter Sun 05-Jun-11 19:19:41
It doesn't matter to me what the law may or may not do, or who it favours.

I'm a feminist. So is DH. If we were to split up then that's how we would organise our lives around DCs.

Your husband is a feminist? Isn't that impossible? Like a person from an ethnic minority being racist? or a Tory being nice?

I agree cory, I think to say women are unhappier now than at any point in the past is patently ridiculous.

We have so many more opportunities, more undersranding families and doctors, we can get a divorce if our husband is knocking us about, we are educated and can work and be independent.

I think archie was kidding

archie, in future can you use a or a so people know you're kidding?

thanks x

archieleach loads of men are feminists. Every man I've ever gone out with is. You do know it's possible for men to be pro women's rights?

Cory - I didn't conduct the research, but it's been proven in other studies that people ( male and female) are often happier with less.
"it's almost as if, in someways we got it all, and then found out it wasn't quite exactly what we wanted' ( quote from the report )

Is that right TheFlyingOnion? I wonder why we need feminists then?

casey women being happier now than they were 40 years ago hardly means that there's no more to do. I didn't say women had complete equality in all areas of life. I said they were happier.

Now, can't you read, or are you just stupid?

No TheFlyingOnion I am not stupid..

"it's almost as if, in someways we got it all, and then found out it wasn't quite exactly what we wanted'

that is not the evidence or even the summing-up of the evidence; that is the part of a report where you provide your own commentary on the summing up of the evidence

when I review research (which I do in the course of my job) I am more interested in the specific questions put and the methods used to answer those questions

until I have seen those I do not consider anything proven by a report

unless you can show me how figures gathered from an age where very few women admitted to mental health problems can be compared to those of an age where at least some of the stigma has been removed from depression, I shall consider the question open

as for the general cliche that poorer people are happier- if we really believed that we would do our best to deprive our children of an education and make sure they lived life on the breadline

I would say men need their rights too its all about women lol and ive never had a promblem because i am a women but when it comes to parenting men do get the short straw which is wrong EQUAL RIGHTS and all

you're doing a pretty good impression of it OP. But I've got better things to do than sit here all night trading insults.

Have fun in your fluffy little stepford world xxx

I think the point was cory...that people who lead more simple lives and do not try and have it all are happier.

Anecdotal evidence collected from Mumsnet over several years suggests to me that those women who feel happiest about their lives are either the ones who have an equal and supportive partner or those who have walked away from an unequal relationship.

happy4eva. equal rights isn't just about parenting you know. why do you keep throwing up the parenting issue. there are far many mroe issues where women dont have equal rights and that is what feminism is about. you keep giving the same example of where men dont have equal rights. you are missing the point altogether.

Casey76 Sun 05-Jun-11 19:44:46
"I think the point was cory...that people who lead more simple lives and do not try and have it all are happier."

Which is why I have always been happy to save some of housework for dh rather than hogging it all.

BooyHoo

No i was stating it because women go on about equal rights blah blah but it works both ways and men have to have equal rights too

Women do have a equal rights now but men do not so how is that fair that is what i was saying

reported x

reported? as in you have reported this thread...hahahahahahahhaah.. ...why because someone has different opinions to you?

Erm you are the only one throwing insults and calling me stupid and yet you have reported me?

Grow up dear you are obviously not even old enough to have any views on feminism...I see it is nearly 8o'clock..are you over tired?

no, I reported your post calling me a troll. Have you read MN rules? Do you know anything about anything?

What equal rights are men missing out on happy4eva? The right to earn less for the same job? The right to experience endless sexual harrassment? The right to have children and a career without a load of people telling them how they're dreadful parents?

Which ones exactly?

Oh God...I have been called a troll several times in this thread..quick someone report the offender before I start to cry... how pathetic.