to believe that most feminists are in actual fact giving women a bad name?

[Casey76]

I, along with most women I imagine are grateful that women fought to give us a vote.....

However I believe that things have gone to far..I hate women who moan and bitch about how they can't have everything!!!!!!!!

No your damn right you can not have everything ...if you go to work full time when your children are young, YOU WILL MISS OUT!!!!!

Why should women have it all???

I believe that most feminists think that they are more worthy of having everything then men and guess what you are wrong...men dont have it all...most men still work full time and still miss out on their children..

Men used to provide for their families...Men used to have a little pride...I don't think that that those women all those years ago wanted things to go this far...where some women see men as useless and think they can do everthing with out them..including having children...fair enough if you split up and you end up a single mum thats one thing but choosing to have a baby alone is just plain selfish....women should not be allowed to use a sperm doner if they are single..

So you feminists who think you are better then men and that you can have everything..YOU ARE WRONG...I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, apologies for not referencing.

I personally think feminists have to stop leaving their sons out on the hillside for wolves to eat and breaking into women's homes to steal their razors. It does the image of their movement no good at all.

So you all agree then that if parents split children should not automatically be told to live with their mother?
If being a feminist means that you want equal rights to men I assume that if you split with your partner you would be happy to only see your children at weekends while they lived with their dad most of the time?
If the law regarding custody was ever changed so that more fathers were given residency you would probably be marching along outside the courts screaming about how children are better off with their mothers!
As for women choosing to have babies alone..one word SELFISH!

casey you sound unhinged.

Why do you give a fuck if someone wants to be a mother but gets to say her late thirities and hasn't met Mr Right yet? Who the fuck are you to tell someone they can't have that opportunity?

WOW lots of fucks there...maybe you need to calm down..

But to answer you, who gives a fuck? maybe that baby who deserves to be concieved for less selfish reasons then a women in her late 30's who decides that she must have a bay too fulfill some selfish need in her to have a baby..

Casey, if dh and I split, I would expect us to carry on living very close to each other so that we could share custody equally. This is what my ex-SIL did after she walked out on my brother. Nobody marched, nobody screamed; they just made arrangements, without reference to any court. The same happened with my db's present partner: when she split from her ex he took a house as close as he could get so they could share custody. This is normal in my culture. As is shared parental leave.

Dh has simply been so closely involved with bringing up the children that they would be flabbergasted at the suggestion that they would automatically be better off with me.

The more you post, the more ignorant you sound.

Are you a man?

Doesn't everyone concieve a baby for selfish reasons?

Well my DS is perfectly happy. I will go and tell him that he'd be better off not being here.

What's selfish is people having kids they don't really want and not giving them the love and attention every child deserves. There's a lot more selfish things out there for you to get your knickers in a twist about.

Yes BeerTricksPotter...you are right but at the moment the law still favours mothers over fathers...and why, according to feminists they need to keep fighting the fight because women are so badly done to...I just do not agree, women who choose to work full time and then choose to have babies and will not comprimise their lifestyle so that they do not need to work full time and then bitch and moan about missing out on their children should look at their own lifes and get their priorites in order.

casey you sound so incredily selfish yourself, that you can't see that other people might want to live their lives differently than you have chosen to live yours. YOU think a child should have two parents - obviously ideally this would be the case in every situation. But life doesn't always work out that way and I can't see how you can deny others opportunities that you have yourself.

But then, I think children are more damaged by ignorant parents than single parents...

Oh, you're just a troll.

As you were.

BooyHoo-

Yes i do feel sorry for the men that get treated the way i described i did point out there are some that differ but that can be said about women too.

not a troll ayerobot, just a blinkered Stepford wife

You have got yourself confused TheFlyingOnion...I didn't mention single parents as in women who end up single after they have had their children I mean women who chose to have a baby and have no intention being in a relationship.

Casey, does that include same sex relationships?

Aye robot the only troll around here is you love, if you can't take someone having a different opinion to you then fuck off and go bother another thread I am sure you are missed somewhere..maybe on the how hairy are your armpits? thread..so quick runalong.

Troll

casey I know that's who you were referring to. Doesn't make you any more reasonable.

What I would like to know is, which women is it that are (allegedly) unhappier today than before? Is it the ones with partners who take equal responsibility for the home and share the childcare as a matter of course?

The other thing I would like to know is, how do you know anything about the mental state of women 40 years ago? In the days when asking to see a doctor for depression was almost unthinkable. My mum suffered from fairly severe depression for long periods, it affected the whole family, but she would never have dreamed of asking for help because of the stigma. So she will never show up in any statistics. And if you asked her about it she would deny it happened.

Heh.

Thick and rude.

You know, I would respect your differing opinion if it were based on evidence and reason. The fact that you are mouthing off the equivalent of a belief in rafts of flying gerbils causing rain means zero respect from me.

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