TO SAY Camerons Policies are in danger of getting all disabled people labelled as "Scroungers"

[ScousyFogarty]

That is a wicked thing do do and David Cameron beeds to apologise or more likely get one of his flunkies to say SORRY

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The conservatives also want to repeal the Equalities Act and remove the right of appeal for those on benefits.

Which considering ATOS got it wrong in 40% of cases (overturned at tribunal) that is fucking scary.

Very dubious money saving with no morality Now the disability charitiesare involved trying to make govt see sense

Well of course ATOS get 'it' wrong they are civil servants not medical experts (i carn't help but compare them, in my mind, to the civil servants in Germany that made the decision that putting people on a diet of 1000 calouries a day in the gettos, was fair, but, oh well).

In my earlier post it was the removal of the right to appeal which i meant that they could not achieve without a big change in the law, and they won't achieve that.

smileANDwave2000

Over and over you keep banging on how your DH fought for us, how he joined the forces to protect us, etc etc.

Could you please explain this. I may have been on holiday, but I don't recall Britain being invaded, certainly not in my life time, anyway. What do you mean?

Nice

Easy wickedwendy. Soldiers dont choose where they are assigned and sure as shit they deserve every penny of DLA if it unfortunately comes to that.

thefirstMrsDeVere

I think its a reasonable question. I marched in London about the illegal war in Iraq and can assure you that anyone serving in that war, Afghanistan or any other war at the moment isn't doing it for me.

Love the way its now 'conservatives' and not 'Cameron' though. Even the politically driven posters on this thread cant put 'disablist' into his mouth, following the death of his son.

They're trying though....in an round about way.

ccpccp

Am Puzzled by your comments. My question was this - in what way did her husband protect me by serving in Iraq? Was he a conscript?

Its not. Its a cheap shot.

And you know it.

Its got fuck all to do with the thread.

Whether you agree with the war or not (I dont). He was in the service of this country when he was injured. That is a fact. He was working for this country.

Good for you for hating war. Everyone else really likes it

Just cos someone is a parent of a disabled child does not mean they understand all the issues or cannot act in a way detrimental to disabled people.

ccpccp I have no problem saying DC is disablist. None at all.

His life, with a disabled child, was a million miles away from the majority of families.

thefirstMrsDeVere

Its got fuck all to do with the thread.

Couldn't agree with you more, so why did she bring up up her husbands service? There was no need. Btw, whats with the offensive language?

Whats with the cheap shots?

I am allowed to swear. MNHQ says so.

I didnt swear at you so whats the problem?

Far, far, far more offensive language on this thread for you to comment on.

Your opinions on the war in the Gulf are irrelevant. Her husbands service is not. Like many other people he was injured whilst at work. He has been dumped by his employers and forced to exist on benefits and charity.

This thread is discussing how people with disabilities are seen as scroungers and a burden on society. The posters anger at how her OH has been treated is relevant.

thefirstMrsDeVere

Your opinions on the war in the Gulf are irrelevant.

Disagree. This is not a thread about how people obtained their injuries, it is a thread about how people with disabilities are seen as scroungers.

Anyway, please don't hijack the thread.

I don't believe the Camerons' experience of disability is anything like the experiences of those who do not have the comfortable buffer of inherited wealth behind them.

Therefore he condones the blatantly disablist acts of the party he leads. I have no issue with saying that.

I'm not bringing Ivan Cameron into it for one moment because that really is a cheap shot.

Over and over you keep banging on how your DH fought for us, how he joined the forces to protect us, etc etc.

one of the most crassly insensitive posts I have seen on MN, wickedwendy

congratulations

I see nothing wrong in bringing up military service. This particular individual wouldn't be disabled if he'd not fought for his country.

Saying servicemen are very much entitled to their DLA and alluding others aren't is also a cheap shot. Again who are you to know the circumstances of the individual?

Glitter I fail to see how, in bringing DCameron's own personal experience into the mix, you are not therefore bringing his son in.

Disability has always been dealt a shit hand by any government because its just not a "sexy" policy area. Times have not changed.

I didn't bring it up though, ccp or whatever the fuck their name is did.

I think my comments thus far is that David Cameron as leader of the conservative party has the ultimate say on decisions made by his party ie Maria Miller and Iain Duncan Smith amongst others.

Nothing about his personal situation at all.

Mind you my local (Tory) MP was only too happy to discuss the Camerons' personal situation to try to get my vote when I questioned him on policies towards people with disabilities.

Disgusting.

disability is itself non-discriminatory, as we all know.

A disability could happen in a family with lots of money and lots of knowledge regarding "the system", or a family with no money and no wherewithall when dealing with the "authorities"; what you are entitled to, the best way to get it, whatever.

Just because a family has a disabled child and has money and even power, doesn't make their experience of disability less "real"

Very true.
It does make their experience of trying to survive on disability benefits null and void though.

It does give them ability to employ help that others cannot get for their own family.

It is a very, very different life.