TO SAY Camerons Policies are in danger of getting all disabled people labelled as "Scroungers"

[ScousyFogarty]

That is a wicked thing do do and David Cameron beeds to apologise or more likely get one of his flunkies to say SORRY

i do literally soldier on too i resent nijinsky commenting i grizzle all the time when she doesnt know me just because i feel strongly (as its my life shes trashing) on MN doesnt mean i go around saying woe is me im a strong woman looking after 3 disabled people at once now my mother has dies only 2 but she has no idea how many hours a day this takes and i have two teenagers too along with all the exact same responsibilities any householder has added to that reciently the fight to get a statement through the LA a diagnosis for my DS (which even though hes moderate asd and dyspraxic) and fight to get him as he was self harming on to the CAMHS list and a place at a special school , we all have a breaking point and no car and no income will be more than i can bare i love my DS i dont want to have to send him away hes a wonderful boy and for the record you cant tell in advance (as one poster mentioned yesterday disabled people having disabled kids being a drain) that your child will be autistic and you dont know not all servicemen know in advance this will deffinately happen to them or we would have no men and women in the forces and thirdly not that i need teel but i will i was not selfish having a baby after my husbands accident his snip reversed which can happen but i wouldnt be without either of them its call LOVE and FAMILY and responsibility which i dont even discuss with anyone im a very personal person im telling you on here because your strangers and dont know me i find that much easier

Oh I did wonder if it was an IED when you described his injuries. I'm so sorry, smile. And sounds like he's continuing his tradition of service to his country in even now, going into youth work .

Btw, off-topic but one of my close family served as a surgeon in Iraq, so there's an outside chance they treated your DH.

could well be yes TIANC hes doing a OU course and a very old friend whos ex army is paying as he runs a marine cadet unit a lot of money too these courses of course when on incapacity they wont pay to retrain you you have less to live on than other benefits where they DO pay for retraining its unbelievable go figure yet they want you off these benefits so they think were going to say oh ill pay DHs course fees this week damn the electricity bill or shoes for school or baked beans its unfathomable

More weird coincendences smile. My OH is ex army, disabled AND a youth worker

Spooky huh?

just had a quick flick at some of the last few pages and saw a few comments. nijinsky if you live anywhere near me come and see what it's like to live with a child with numerous medical and neurological problems, show me what I do when my ds refuses to walk due to some of his nerological issues, or can't walk due to his medical issues, then won't use a wheelchair due to these issues also. Then when he is physically attacking you as you are trying to get him to do something he won't/can't do. Then he's swearing and everyone is staring and whispering and you are freezing as you have stood in the same place for the last 5 hours and you are worring about your other children etc what do you do. But remember your motability car isn't parked in the space 2 meters away with your blue badge in the window as these have been cut back. If you or anyone else fancy a day like me feel free to come along, should be fun.

Didnt your OH get a grant for his OU? I got a full grant. Their threshold is quite generous.

Bonkers, isn't it?

If he were sitting on his arse by choice he'd get Income Support, free prescriptions, free training, etc.

Lose your limbs in the service of your country and you are not worthy.

Wonderful to hear that an ex-army mate is helping out. The unofficial army "family" can be pretty amazing sometimes, I gather. But it's so hit and miss.

my DH wasnt entitled to any grants, in his wheelchair just after his accident they made him voluntarily they said but would go against you if you refused ,sit at the adult learning center looking on the internet (like he hadnt been doing that at home already) for charities that would pay or help pay towards his course. i mean everythings so degrading especially to someone whos never claimed anything before and really doesnt want to be in this position

DId you look into the OU system?

I work and my OH works but our income is low enough to qualify.

The course has to be towards a degree though.

blesma are supposed to be great but we didnt get any help from them i think it was just this very elderly man who visited luck of the draw i guess but he was so rude DH had been home from months in hospital 2 weeks and his first and only thing forget rehabilitation was why arnt you back at work ummm maybe because the army wont have him... strange question i though same gentalman asked me while filling out a form why i had put down i usually buy about off topof my head 3 pairs of shoes a year per child? i think we can see he was so elderly he had lost touch with reality a bit . with all due respects

i cant fully remember now but im sure it was same reason at the time wrong benefit im pretty sure they said he would get help if on JSA or income support or might have been because of child tax credits was 2.5 yrs ago when he started the course and i think he applied just a bit late too might have affected it , anyway his friend was happy to pay such a great bloke lucky there are still some lovely people still about

Definately worth checking it out for his next module. I am pretty certain he will qualify. You would automatically qualify if you were on IS BUT you can qualify if you are not on it, you need to be on a low income.

Thing is even eight years ago I could never have imagined life with family who have disabilties.

Now I have three children with disabilities.

You never know which way your life will turn.

Yet some posters here assume my level of education, that I am content to be on benefits, that I am greedy, selfish etc.

They know absolutely nothing about me, nothing about my working background, nothing about my future plans.

For the moment this is the only way possible to get through life and there are proposals to remove that support meaning there will be no way to get through life.

Of course I'll shout about it. Doesn't mean I have a sense of entitlement.

I wonder if other parents expecting their children to get some semblance of an education through the state system have a sense of entitlement too? I wonder if other parents who take themselves or their children to a NHS doctor or hospital also have a sense of entitlement?

I have paid into the system. I have paid into these services. As has my DH.

Ah, so BLESMA no good already. Can you be bothered to try them again, or afraid it'll be more of the same?

Regimental associations also spring to mind, but I'm sure a) you've already thought of that, and b) they're probably all a bit stretched the last few years...

And yes, it's horrendously degrading isn't it? I'm used to working hard and receiving at least a little respect for my work, not being treated like the something on the bottom of people's shoes. And I used to be able to look at any part of my life (job, location, money, etc) and think, "OK, how do I improve this?" And go off and do it.

It's not a nice experience being utterly dependent. I can only even speak about it because I'm now so much better, and anticipate continuing to improve. I am in awe at those on this thread whose situations are vastly worse than mine, who have maintained their cool in the face of such bitter, deeply personal attacks.

I have reported personal attacks against me, and MNHQ are monitoring one user in particular.

I suggest anyone else who feels the same, that ideological opinion has spilled over into unnecssary personal attacks, does the same.

I find it rather shameful the number of people who have come out of the woodwork now that we have a rightish wing government with quite frankly hate type attitudes towards people with disabilities, and how very little this is challenged.

Also those who think it's fine to patronise the hell out of people without actually having any kind of understanding or empathy towards their situation.

Actually the empathy of many in this country has really gone down the toilet.

British Legion? They were lovely when we needed the extra for our extension.

YES! we get 'free' home improvements as well. We are so lucky I hope everyone is jealous that my OH cant get up the stairs to have a wee.

It seems nijinksky thinks that if you just ignore disabilities and refuse to consider yourself disabled then it just magically becomes easier and you don't need any extra support. Mind over matter should be applied which leads to healthy robustness which leads to better genes and eventually no more wailing, whingeing, entitled drains on society. Unless it's not genetic but, you know, shit happens - chin up and get on with it. We're all struggling so what makes you so special?

What this country needs is more people like brave, robust, stoic nijinsky. I for one cannot imagine how she manages to cope every day and sleep at night just being her. I know I couldn't do it.

Actually I have been shopping for our new motability car today. Jealous people seethe all you like.

You can have it if you sacrifice your dignity and ability to walk and care for yourself, ok?

Not that cheap is it?

we were getting help for a bit from one of them but had a letter saying they had so many ( i guess since the two wars weve been involved in not a surprise) applicants they could only help for a very short while it was a one off amount as my oven packed up i was very grateful i will apply if such an emergency occurs again but when my washing machine gave up the ghost last summer (nd as i have oodles of washing with a son whos still in pull ups and is 11 ) including bed linen almost daily i could not do all that by hand so i got a second hand free one off freecycle thank, god for freecycle

Oh I want ccpccp's attack on me to stay on the record.

Normal people struggle to believe that people like her can exist or behave like that. It's really important that they be seen in public.

(I'm not always this robust, but might as well make it count while I am.)

I dunno, TIANC. I think sometimes the silence of others on here is condoning those posts.

i would rather have the money than the car IYKWIM but the cars a massive necessity isnt itno i think they also asume the cars free you do have to give up your dla to get it unless you get a very tiny car and as ive shopping a wheelchair and family of 5 i do need a fair size vehicle ive a picaso as it was the cheapest at the time, ( for the benefit of posters who dont know you do have a fee to pay to get it as well) advance payment went up to £3,500 on it i believe what is the one youve looked at?

and forgot to say motobility (run by the government) do sell them looking brand new afterwards and get a lot of mone back on each vehicle because your only allowed to go so many miles per year in it so millage is extremely low and cars are changed every three years

VW Touran. Advance Payment £1,149. Bearing mind we're a 2 adult, 3 kid family, one has a wheelchair, one has a buggy but will be in a wheelchair before lease is up so we have to get a car that will grow with us.

So now I need to find that money.

I am so far behind on my washing with having to look after one of my ds 24/7, as for the house thats out the window, so if anyone wants to do some washing, ironing or cleaning or better still some respite by looking after my kids 4 of which are disabled and one of those being a 2 person job feel free to say................oh btw I can pay out of my ds DLA, I don't claim for the rest.