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TO SAY Camerons Policies are in danger of getting all disabled people labelled as "Scroungers"

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ScousyFogarty · 29/05/2011 12:43

That is a wicked thing do do and David Cameron beeds to apologise or more likely get one of his flunkies to say SORRY

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wubblybubbly · 31/05/2011 13:20

Nijinsky, you didn't answer my question (surprise Hmm)

My point about Karma was that it seems the best people get struck down with the worst afflictions, particularly bearing in mind my friend died yesterday. A lovely woman who should have had the opportunity to see her children grow into adults.

Why do you think it was about you?

nijinsky · 31/05/2011 13:23

What sort of DLA does your eventing friend get, btw? Personal care or mobility? Higher or lower rates?

I don't know for sure, as she is a bit secretive. But from what she has said on the past, I would guess it is lower rate. I know she tried for a mobility car and got turned down, but that she has a blue badge, which may or may not be getting taken away. And there are problems with the pension, due to people complaining about her getting it (I think people she used to work with).

I do understand her medical capacity. She does the same sport as me, and I find it exhausting. There is simply no way you can do 3 day eventing and claim you have mobility problems, when you have to walk a 3 mile cross country course 3 times, before riding it twice, on 2 different horses.

Shes not my friend any more. I distanced myself because she is the type of person who constantly asks you do things for her (unconnected with her "disability", she just likes freebies) and is a bit of a user. ie when I needed some help from her, she was going to charge me for it!)

nijinsky · 31/05/2011 13:24

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ThisIsANiceCage · 31/05/2011 13:27

I've no idea what you'd feel, nijinsky. You seem pretty angry at people here who have now reached the more serious stages of their illnesses or suffered traumatic injuries in Iraq.

But I'll take the "being glad" idea. You can be glad for me, too.

One of my great consolations during "the pyjama years" has been to look back at the things I did before I was seriously ill (many while I was moderately ill), and know that by god I made good use of my life. And I hope to do more, but that's yet a little way off.

ThisIsANiceCage · 31/05/2011 13:29

Sorry, lots of X-posts.

wubblybubbly · 31/05/2011 13:30

Karma is about getting back what we give, getting what we deserve, or not in so many cases.

I guess you can take it either way, interesting how you chose to interpret it. Our minds clearly work very differently. I always look for the best in people, though it's not always easy.

lesley33 · 31/05/2011 13:33

I thought blue badges were authorised by the GP? I know there has been talk about reforming this. Although there are criteria for when it should be issued, some GP's authorise blue badges at a lower level of need than the criteria; whilst other GP's refuse to authorise blue badges when a patient clearly meets the criteria.

ThisIsANiceCage · 31/05/2011 13:46

From my blue badge form (must get round to renewing), issued by county council.

//

  1. Are you registered blind under the National Assistance Act 1948? (do not tick Yes if you're registered partially sighted)

  2. Do you receive the Higher Rate Mobility of Disability Living Allowance? (if Yes please supply evidence [list])

  3. Do you receive War Pensioners' Mobility Supplement? (if Yes please supply evidence)

  4. Do you have a severe disability in both upper limbs and are unable to turn the steering wheel of a vehicle by hand even if the wheel is fitted with a turning knob?

Part C
If you have answered No to all the above questions, you may still apply for the badge if you are able to tick Yes to ALL of the following, as the intention is that only very severely disabled people qualify under these conditions:
? I have a "permanent and not intermittent" disability, which means that my condition is not temporary and is unlikely to alter.
? This effects [sic] my walking ability, so that my mobility is reduced to no more than 100 yards.
? I am able to supply medical evidence from either my GP or a consultant to verify my condition.
[set of Qs about medical condition, GP's address, etc]
//

ThisIsANiceCage · 31/05/2011 13:46

Mobility component of DLA

ThisIsANiceCage · 31/05/2011 13:48

And for the avoidance of doubt, applicants under Part C can be turned down. It's not a rubber stamp jobby.

lesley33 · 31/05/2011 13:51

Thanks This. I knew about the 100 yards criteria. But I also know it is not always strictly applied by GP's . I have also read about people whose GP refuses to support their application, even though the person can't walk a 100 yards.

ThisIsANiceCage · 31/05/2011 13:54

Re the eventer, if she's being investigated, surely that's the system working? Not a sign it's broken? Hmm

Riveninside · 31/05/2011 14:16

"I know plenty of people, working full-time in good jobs, with university degrees, who cannot afford cars. So complaining that you have to pay towards a mobility car, for instance, does not always come across well"

If you qualify for a motability car its because you can barely walk. Thats all. Someone who cannot pay for a car can catch the bus. You ever tried catching a bus when you cannot walk to the stop? Or getting on a bus in a wheelchair? Thats what motability cars are for.

And njinsky, once again, people on dla still work. David cameron got dla for his son despite working and being a multi millionaire. Its not income related ffs.

Glitterknickaz · 31/05/2011 15:19

Riven, don't let this individual get you down. They are not worth it.
God help them if they're hit by a bus tomorrow, eh? x

devientenigma · 31/05/2011 15:42

I haven't been away that long and the thread has an extra 10 pages or so!! Obviously haven't read them all. As the OP said are disabled people gonna get labbelled as scroungers. NO. At the end of the day they will always be looked on as a drain on society and resources.

devientenigma · 31/05/2011 15:48

DLA and carers allowance are there as a small compensation to who needs at a fraction of the cost that it would usually cost the government to put the package of care in place. Take away or reduce either of these benefits you will all find they will need replaced with another and another. The ripple effect and drain on other sources etc will be massive!!

smileANDwave2000 · 31/05/2011 15:56

she isnt worth the breath saying people are not worthy including my very physically disabled husband i obviously and take note all blue badge/dla folk to get a sign made to hang around your neck with your diagnosis and what drugs your on and how it affects you so as no to offend nijinsky when she cant get a spot in tesco carpark, and hoefully Karma will bite you o the bum.so i moan about my husbands severe disability and my sons too much,...sorry i though this thread was about disability, dla and scroungers ? thats why i posted on it because unlike some of the people who have come on here to spout their political beliefs ive actually experienceof disability , all the points throughout this thread ive asked this lady questions and the other lady last night (sorry if i confused posters but their points were much of a muchness) but after only ever getting 2/4 hrs if im lucky sleep a night one tendd to get a little fuzzy 9sorry nijinsky im all me me me) but i ask you as i did the poster last night what then do you propose when i cant aford to feed and clothe and cant drive my ds to special school or my husband back and forth to the hospital and will not be able to take them on public transport WHAT do YOU propose i do? i will as i said, and have been completely dismissed by you, i will have to put my son in care this is your YOUR david cameron fascist (BIG SOCIETY) plan where rich get richer maybe not quite so rich they may have to buy cheaper brands in waitrose ,as i put my son in care as i have no way of looking after him anymore and this is according to you SHARING THE BURDEN OF THE CUTS?

smileANDwave2000 · 31/05/2011 15:59

My husbands doing a youth work degree with the OU Riveninside but acording to certain posters hes still worthless scrounger even though hes disabled because he faught for his country and as the poster said to me yesterday i shouldnt we the disabled should not have children ive no idea wha made memention the little man with a moustache Confused

Glitterknickaz · 31/05/2011 16:08

With lofty thoughts as his/hers are it's a very long and very hard fall should they suddenly become permanently incapacitated tomorrow, either by being hit by a bus, heart attack, stroke, cancer.... to find there's very little help out there and what does exist will soon be gone.

smileANDwave2000 · 31/05/2011 16:13

there but for the grace of god go i but they will not understand as you say till its their turn/ too late but it will happen to a lot of these poeple

ThisIsANiceCage · 31/05/2011 16:21

No, no, you don't understand, Glitter and smile, she is protected.

If you get a good degree and work long hours at a good job, maybe two, and claim to care about everybody in the world, then you will never be one of those Other type of people, the shits who claim disability benefits instead of smiling and getting on.

It will never happen to nijinsky.

ThisIsANiceCage · 31/05/2011 16:28

And I was clearly dropped by aliens, as I tick every sodding one of those boxes, including the shutting up and soldiering on for years - which I now know dramatically worsened my health. Ah well.

devientenigma · 31/05/2011 16:33

This is where we need to be stronger, be collective, together we have a voice, individually it's not as strong. We should not soldier on at he risk of our health. Our daily lives are a big enough fight without having to fight extra pressures!!!

smileANDwave2000 · 31/05/2011 16:33

im sure the government and mod would have prefered my husband to have not survived the IED they wouldnt have to give any of us a second though ohhh wait hang on they dont already how selfish of my DH

thefirstMrsDeVere · 31/05/2011 16:41

nijinsky why do you insist on ignoring the FACT that DLA is not an out of work benefit.

Why?

Why will you not take heed of all the posts telling you that DLA is paid to people with disabilities who work. In fact it is often the benefit that allows them to work.

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