TO SAY Camerons Policies are in danger of getting all disabled people labelled as "Scroungers"

[ScousyFogarty]

That is a wicked thing do do and David Cameron beeds to apologise or more likely get one of his flunkies to say SORRY

lol @ services i dont get any but i did get dla and incapacity for my two disabled members of my family but not for much longer oi workhouse disabled or not get up that chimney you lazy layabout dickensian or what?

They are not services I hold dear... in many cases they are ESSENTIAL services to provide a basic standard of living that most people take for granted.

In my own daughter's case it's cardiac care. Would any of you be happy with having your child's cardiac health being ignored? It's support in her preschool education to try to get some semblance of a level playing field with her peers so that she can realise her potential in education.

Once again I maintain that there are other places cuts could be made. Other ways of bringing income into the coffers. Other ways of keeping people in the public sector in employment so that spending rises and the economy begins to recover.

she does not deserve education glitter i mean sh hasnot contributed yet has she she belongs like my DH and DS in the workhouse i guess

I vote for prison. 3 meals a day and free education. See you there

Socialist government? When was that then?

"And no doubt you continued to pay National Insurance contributions and tax here while working abroad, and didin't just return to use the services when you needed them?"

Correct.

But thanks for asking.

Nice sweeping assumptions going on eh, TIANC?

Oh, I think I didn't pay tax here - I don't even know how you'd technically manage that when domiciled elsewhere.

But I paid voluntary NI contributions. And no, I didn't know I'd be seriously ill some years after returning.

Oh I'm playing bullshit bingo with some posters here, Glitter. My score's been quite high!

Oh I know. The examples of pig shit ignorance are astounding

sense of entitlement was trotted out fairly early on

"My score's been quite high!"

Unlike your future DLA payments.

Did nijinsky leave, or maybe she off having her dinner? She was doing very well in the face of group vitrol and sneering from you guys.

she probably went to namechange think of more bollocks to spout

I think thats because she doesnt seem to actually take in what we are saying.

Absolutely.
We are not listened to so we repeat our stance.
We are asked to justify ourselves so we do.

Sneering would infer that we feel some kind of superiority, far from it.

Would you meekly back away from that kind of comment about your family?

In fact any parent told that they are watching the pound signs rather than being concerned about their child's needs would react.

Any parent being told that they and their children are a drain on society when there is absolutely nothing that they can do about their situation would react.

Any parent being accused of being selfish when they are discussing a topic closely aligned to their children's needs would react.

I've not actually made any personal attacks on anyone, unlike other posters on this thread. I've defended my family and justified my position. Unlike others on this thread I am concerned about people with disabilities in general not merely my own situation.

Unlike other posters on this thread I have backed up my statistics with relevant links.

utterly horrified by what I can only describe as fascist attitudes on this thread! And I don't use that f-word lightly. The old 1920s/30s eugenics argument is alive and well. Whenever you scratch a real Tory, or get them drunk, (I've worked in the financial sector before with hundreds of the buggers), they start bemoaning the tendency of the poor/black/'defective' to keep breeding. And get Nijinsky banging on about the amazing old girls who are deaf and diabetic whom s/he (comes across like a he, but then extreme right wingers often do) and don't want to be disabled! So they aren't!! Strength through joy eh? Lucky them, they can clearly survive without benefits.

Astonishing accusations that disabled people 'do not care about anyone else' -which is sheer bollocks as anyone actually reading the thread can tell.

And by the way i'm not disabled- and want my taxes to be used to help out people who are or have to care for those who are. Not to pay off banks and make life easier for 'struggling financial sector workers'

and ccp- are you actually revelling in the fact that people with disabilities, disabled kids and spouses are about to have their money cut? Because that is really, really sick. Really.

Oh ccpccp's quite right. I won't be getting DLA for much longer - because I'm getting better! (At least I earnestly hope so, and that my recovery will outstrip the changes.)

But ccpccp didn't know that when she said it.

For all she knew, I could be expecting to die soon.

So liking your style here, c, and taking your protectiveness of nijinsky against the nasty people well to heart. Admirable, that's what it is. Admirable.

lol @ the poster going away for her tea [grins] thats what i did well that and bath my 11 yo DS flippin heck i was hoping the poster in question was on her way round to help damn it but nope ive had to go it alone such fun caring for two disabled people whilst running a home and two teens im so living it up on my huge pay out from mr cameron

TINC- for people like ccp, I think the complete disappearance of disabled people is actually what they want. And I don't think they care if that's institutionalisation, death, etc. Survival of the 'fittest' and all that. Which actually means survival of the most selfish gits, it would seem.

In Italy recently, I realised I was seeing lots of disabled people begging on the metro and on streets. I questioned my partner about it and he said 'yeah because here the family is expected to support you so if you are disabled you get nothing really'. That is what Cameron wants to take us back to.

To be honest though, the anti-disability fascists are not going to be happy either way. Disabled people are like the homeless to them: an eyesore.

reminds me of the man who invaded poland that was his ethos wasnt it scary......

But their arnt any disabled people in Italy! nijinksky 's link tells us so!

She bases everything on that page. You will rock her beliefs to the core!

I get the lower rate of DLA for personal care. I do worry about the new assessments as a) it took more than 20 years for me to get a correct diagnosis, and b) the cause of my disability is 'invisible', unless you go look at some v.detailed X-rays with specialist knowledge. Like many I do not 'look' disabled. The hoop-jumping of getting DLA is not easy (far from it) - info was given by my GP, consultants and my main 'helper'. Without my helper I would be dependant on my 5yo daughter to help me. If DLA is removed, and/or I am transferred to PIP, that actually reduces the availability of care to me as I won't be able to choose how to use that money - currently for items that make personal care easier, or to give my helper respite. From what some ignorant posters have said, maybe my family should consider sending me to a residential home.

I have spent 30 years in daily pain, with completely inadequate pain relief. I have got to the point where I have seriously considered begging the consultant to cut one of my hands off (I'd do it myself, only both hands knackered by this skeletal issue) as the pain is so bad (shame they can't try that with the neck pain!) and nothing med bods reccommend helps. The last consultant I saw is probably the only one in this Country with specialist knowledge of how my medical problems are caused and how that affects my daily life.

Some unqualified/unspecialised person with a computer is not going to have the foggiest notion. Seeing as how seeing numerous consultants in 20 years and none of them worked the cause, I fail to see how an ACTOS person will succeed.

Really allegrageller? Really really? Or just really?

Dont be so sensitive ThisIsANiceCage. You were cock of the walk and writing nijinsky views off as bullshit when they clearly werent. A cheap trick when she'd argued so honestly, so I knocked a bit of wind out of your sails.

Good to hear you are getting better. Only 19.999999% to go