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to not tell anyone dd's musilm friend ate meat?

126 replies

elphabadefiesgravity · 18/05/2011 20:04

I suppose this is more of a what would you do if anything.

I was asking hte children what they had for lunch at school today so I could plan tea. Dd said we had spaghetti bolognese, ds said I had veggie sausages and pasta (he's not veggie but doesn't like meat much.

Anyway dd said I tried a bit of x's veggie sausage in return for some of my bolognese.

Dd's best friend is muslim and only eats vegetarian food at school. I have seen her younger sister at parties ask if food is halal and I overheard snatches of a conversation last week between the teacher and her mum about problems at a special day when messages regarding suitable food or something hadn't got through or one of them had eaten something by accident - not quite sure as I didn't hang around to eavesdrop.

Part of e thinks that she is 9 years old and so able to make her own choices - apparently it was her idea to trydd's food as "no-one will know" but they obviously have strong religious views and also I don;t want dd to get into trouble for being part of it.

The easy thing for me is to say nothing - but is that reasonable?

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shinyshoes · 18/05/2011 20:06

i'd leave it and say nothing

FabbyChic · 18/05/2011 20:08

Say nothing.

MyLifeIsChaotic · 18/05/2011 20:08

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squeakytoy · 18/05/2011 20:09

I am fairly sure they can eat plenty of meat apart from pork, and I cant say I blame a child for wanting to try someone elses food. It isnt an allergy, so I would say there is no need for the mother to know. It would just cause problems for the poor child.

Oakmaiden · 18/05/2011 20:09

This happened at school? If so then don't say anything - you weren't there, and didn't SEE it, and it was not your responsibility to check what the child was eating or to report if she ate the wrong thing.

Would be different if it happened at your house - I don't know what the right thing to do then would be, but since it was at school, just pretend your daughter didn't mention it!

nancy75 · 18/05/2011 20:10

I thought most schools used halal meat anyway? I would keep out of it!

mumblechum1 · 18/05/2011 20:11

She's probably allowed to eat meat, except pork, so long as it's ritually slaughtered.

pozzled · 18/05/2011 20:11

Are you sure that the bolognese wasn't halal? A lot of schools do offer halal meat now.

TheOriginalFAB · 18/05/2011 20:11

I would stay out of it and say nothing as you will either get the child into trouble or piss off the mother.

elphabadefiesgravity · 18/05/2011 20:13

No - school don't use halal meat as the parent requested her children only have vegetarian meals.

I think I will tell dd not to give x any of her own food again just so she isn't involved. I'm always very careful to cater for x at parties etc.

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foxinsocks · 18/05/2011 20:13

Say nothing

A vegan child came to one of dd's parties and was literally cramming in the sausages (I didn't know she was vegan till the mum picked her up - she assumed I knew but due to being wohm, I know sweet fa about the children). I said nada Grin.

elphabadefiesgravity · 18/05/2011 20:15

Yes I don't want to get dd's friend into trouble - she is a lovely girl

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Guitargirl · 18/05/2011 20:15

I would say nothing, the only time you would need to I think if there was some kind of allergy but there isn't.

beesimo · 18/05/2011 20:18

I hate the fact there is so much halal meat produced in this country now it is cruelty itself on the animals. No beast of ours will ever go to a halal slaughterhouse dreadfully wicked way of going on.

giveitago · 18/05/2011 20:18

Erm, if they are veggie why would they need halal?

pointythings · 18/05/2011 20:23

Sad at vegan child cramming in sausages.

dixiechick1975 · 18/05/2011 20:26

Child is not veggie giveitago - mum wishes her to have veggie option to avoid non halal meal.

elphabadefiesgravity · 18/05/2011 20:27

The meat at school isn't halal so mum has requested she have the veggie meal

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elphabadefiesgravity · 18/05/2011 20:27

well at least I think so -she could be vggie for all I know I just assumed halal as they have asked about sweets etc at parties.

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HalfTermHero · 18/05/2011 20:30

Do not say anything! The little girl should have freedom of choice. Do not do anything to jeopardise her burgeoning independence.

Doodlez · 18/05/2011 20:32

Nothing in the Qur?an requires Muslims to be vegetarians. However, there are certain restrictions on what Muslims can eat or drink ? these restrictions are called Halal.

Halal means ?permissible? in Arabic. So, Muslims cannot eat foods that are not ?Halal?.

Similar to Jewish Kosher laws, Muslims cannot eat any pork or pig meat. The Qur?an does not state why pig-meat is restricted, but some believe that it is because pigs are considered unclean.

Also, like Kosher, an animal must be slaughtered while it is still alive. This method of slaughtering is called ?Dhabiha?; it ensures that no blood is left in the meat before it is eaten. Because of this some Muslims choose only to eat meat that comes from a Muslim butcher.

Also, under Halal, Muslims cannot consume any alcohol, even if it was used to prepare food.

This is the most common understanding of Halal, and Muslims can eat anything except for these few restricted foods.

Doodlez · 18/05/2011 20:34

Soz - meant to say the extract below was taken from "Muslim Voices" website.

I would say something TBH. JUst to give mum the heads-up so she can talk to her little girl some more about it.

bejeezus · 18/05/2011 20:37

i wouldnt say anything to the mum in this instance. But I think you are right in telling your daughter not to give the girl any non-halal food again

theglove · 18/05/2011 20:41

DS used to have friends to his parties who were Muslim, the parents would mention when asked that they were not allowed ham/sausage etc., but generally shrugged and said they knew it happened and was fine.
As they all got older, they could self regulate very well.
I loved the way the school from nursery up, would separate birthday sweets, meaning the children would describe each other as 'he's gelatine/ he's non-gelatine'

Btw, OP I think everyone's right to say nothing, the parents probably know it goes on.

elphabadefiesgravity · 18/05/2011 20:45

Right general consensus - say nothing - thats fine with me.

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