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'We can't afford disabled people'- row with BIL, what next? AIBU to ditch him?

191 replies

SleepingOnTheJob · 14/05/2011 17:11

Some people will know this story as I have talked about it of board sorry. It's just bothering me and I have yet to decide what to do next.

Background: I have 4 children, all cocneived with a good job in family etc but whilst there still is empoyment DHs income hqs taken a big hit from redundancy and I am now a carer. Two of the boys are diagnosed with ASD, one has a non formal diagnosis (ie school say but no OT accepting referrals locally due to OT sick leave) of dyspraxia, and ds4 has just been referred for assessment for autism, I would say AS.

Was at Mums with 3 boys. Sunday relaxing in sun in garden etc whilst Dh took one off to see mates. Mum's a fair drive from us so unusual to get to see her therefore a treat. BIL walks in with nephew who runs off with my boys; BIL sits down but doesn't even look at me, fiddling with phone. Coughs and starts to speak:

'All benefits claimants are lazy bastards'

'I'm a carer. I didn't choose this'

'This country cannot afford you'

'I'm going to try and get work next year when the yongest starts school'

'We cannot afford you'

'The boys didn't choose to be disabled'

'We can't afford disabled people; they sort themselves out or fuck off but disability is a luxury we cannot afford'

'What does that mean?'

'We cant afford them'

he then launched into a rant about all the kids with 'rubbish dx's' (I know one via a mate, severe asd) at the school he is a Governor at and walked out. I have spoken to sis since on phone and she clearly has no idea but not seen him. Didn't send birthday card to him either but feel mean for it; bought one but it's still here. Burst into tears and was crying a bit for days after, what with shock of ds4 failing developmental tests and being referred as well. Wish i'd had the guts to ask him what disabled people should actually do or be done with, have gut feeling euthanasia was hanging in the air but not said.

This is my boys, his nephews ffs. I've known him longer than he has known my sister. He' not exactlys truggling- they work hard but have plenty to show for it. I'd understand if they were under threat of bankruptcy or something.

Haven't been to mums other than to do a drop and run since, don't want to see him. He is there a lot.

AIBU to just pretend he doesn't exist? Also tempted to put a clause in will that on no account can he have my boys if dh and I should pass away but no toehr family yong enough.

What to do?

Mum has also had comments from nephew about people who live in social housing being a drain on state; a drain that has given them all hours childcare for six years, 5 days FT a week for 5 of them!

Mum and Dad were mortified but are too scared of losing the nephew they did pretty much raise at one pint (due to sister's ill health) to say anything except that he's a wanker.

Thank you. Please no rants about fraudulent claims; I agree they are criminals. They are not me though.

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bullet234 · 14/05/2011 18:31

Well, if it was me I'd be wanting to have nothing more to do with the vile little sod. However, if you are unfortunate to have to see him again, then if he starts just look at him and say:
"I tell you what. You just keep wittering on and one of these days I might pretend to care."
I wouldn't give a shit about being nice or considerate to him. He would have lost that right with his views.

JellyBeansOnToast · 14/05/2011 18:36

Prick. I suppose he thinks people choose for their children to be severely disabled and require 24hour care for the rest of their lives, just so they get a handout from the government? I mean what a reasonable trade-off: a lifetime of worry and sleepless nights and appointments for a measly stipend to help you get a very small amount of care or specialist equipment. Knob.

What does he expect people do to, drown children with autism once they're diagnosed at the (earliest) age of two?! Tie them to a radiator all day to fend for themselves so the parents can go out to work to afford to pay for their needs?

sfxmum · 14/05/2011 18:36

and we can't afford old people or ill people,can't afford educating everyone either, so does he propose using them for sport? choices choices, what kind of society would he like to live in?Hmm

we can't afford stupid people

smallwhitecat · 14/05/2011 18:40

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kc0rns1lk · 14/05/2011 18:45

please inform the school in which he is a governor of his disgusting views on disability. What a vile man

Pedallleur · 14/05/2011 18:52

W*nker. perhaps he thinks that all disabled/special needs people should be put in camps and 'removed' or just dump the kids in some Iron Curtain type orphanage. He had better hope he never becomes disabled/unemployed!

MotherSnacker · 14/05/2011 19:16

Vile excuse for a human being.

JackTheNipper · 14/05/2011 19:20

I'm sorry but, absolute fuck-head, by his reasoning this country can not afford smokers, drinkers, the over weight, as they put a strain on the NHS, and what about the police force? lets see well if we cut back on the drunk drivers, thieves, rapists and murders we could save a few bob.
oh and don't forget the amount the HMS costs the tax payer.
We could also cut back on the education system, stop the poor breeding for a start. But wait a minute.........this is all just a fantacy it will not happen!!!

There will always be children born who have additional needs, even from privilaged backgrounds, take my DS a dodgy birth left him with cerebral palsy, maybe by reasoning I should have put a bag over his head?

Both me and DH work and pay taxes, never claimed benifits before.
DS is at a disadvantage enough as it is without these attitudes, does he think that being the parent of a disabled child is completely stress free because there is hand outs from the government?
Where I work I see 'normal' people become disabled in an instant, Disability is not something people choose to be, I would give back all my benifits 10000X over if it meant DS could run and play and do everyday things kids his age are doing.

Nancy66 · 14/05/2011 19:24

He's a 24 carat cunt.
what's his great contribution to society, eh?

BagofHolly · 14/05/2011 19:28

Gosh what an arse. Jackthenipper, you've missed out The Old. Worst drain on the NHS ever. And when this oxygenthief is getting on a bit I wonder will he still see things the same way.

OP, I do wonder whether he's setting out to deliberately offend you personally. he's disgusting.

JackTheNipper · 14/05/2011 20:16

oh god how could I have forgotten the old, my Dgran- 96!!!!! just had a pacemaker fitted, she worries that the batteries are going to wear out!!!

cuttingpicassostoenails · 14/05/2011 20:32

"He's a 24 carat cunt."

Nancy...darling. I like your style.

He is indeed.

purpleknittingmum · 14/05/2011 20:36

How would he feel if he or any of his family became disabled?

purpleknittingmum · 14/05/2011 20:41

Definitely have no as little contact with him as possible

Nasty piece of work

inappa · 14/05/2011 20:51

Just ignore him as much as you possibly can. Have to say the people suggesting violence against him make me Hmm

ReindeerBollocks · 14/05/2011 21:02

Personally I think it's people like your BiL who need more help than anyone nasty spiteful bastard.

My DH has always worked, despite being very ill on some occasions. He was told to claim benefits when first diagnosed but he told the hospital that he'd rather earn more money doing his actual job.

I pity ignorant fools like this, they really have no idea what life is like. Your sons will be far better people OP, take comfort in that.

ReindeerBollocks · 14/05/2011 21:03

Although I agree with inappa, I wouldn't wish a disability upon him, doing so would make me just as selfish as he is.

SmartyHan · 14/05/2011 21:08

Why write to the school? Just because he has weird opinions does not mean he should lose his governor job! His opinions are abhorrent but HIS. What are you going to write? Oh, he is not very nice? Any professional board would chuck it away, thinking it was written out of spite. Bide your time, people like that always fall.

ohokthen · 14/05/2011 21:34

Sounds like a git, some sort of nazi. And is obviously instilling his shit ideas in his child.

Sorry but I would off ripped his fooking head off, coming out with shit like that.

And I also wouldnt hold back in speaking frankly (without swearing) to nephew as well.

No wonder your sister has been ill, living with a pilac like that.

Sounds like this guy is living in nazi germany.

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StealthPolarBear · 14/05/2011 23:17

He came round specially to tell you that? What did he expect you to say "Oh, OK sorry we'll emigrate"??
I thought you were going to say he'd had a drunken rant which would be bad enough.

Would what the country would be like if we got rid of all the BNP supporters?

StealthPolarBear · 14/05/2011 23:18

Oh and benefits and services are for all - there is no "we" - everyone is "we"

Well apart from him and people like him, if I was in charge

StealthPolarBear · 14/05/2011 23:19

SmartyHan, how well do you think he meets the needs of any children in the school with additional needs? I bet they're not one of the "we" he is talking about

pigletmania · 14/05/2011 23:23

What a wanker, would he say that if he or his family become disabled then Hmm