to think it's highly unlikely that Jesus was dead when they put him into the tomb?

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Crucified for 1 day with nails put in hands and feet and a spear wound on his side. I think he must have just been unconscious when put in the cave. Then 'came to' the day later and pushed the stone away with the sort of supehuman strength that, for example, women get whentheir babies are trapped under soemthing heavy. Guards outside tomb could have been sleeping or buggered off or something.

FWIW, I don't practice the particular kind of Christianity which is officially the state religion. But I'm happy to have the balance that places faith as part of the political sphere.

If the UK was officially a secular society then there would be no playing field.

I'm never sure why people who don't want worship in schools don't send their children to non-denominational schools?
No worship in my school, or preaching (though we do teach children about a variety of faiths and also humanism).

OK.

You suggest that if I don;t like my children being obliged to pray at school I should move to a different country. So you are happy for your faith to drive me and my children out of our country of birth? I see no tolerance there!

And iI would be interested to know what the anti Christian atheist propaganda your children are exposed to. I would be very, very surprised if it was a overt as a much loved and respected year 2 teacher telling them that God made them, and they should thank God for making the lovely world they live in. Oh, and that good people go to heaven when they die.

You have 18 hours out of 24 to pray with your child and teach him about your faith. Why do you need to have it taught in the other 8 too?

HalfPastWine, the US has a very clear separation of church and state. Admittedly it is a subject that is regularly and strongly fought over, particularly by some Christian groups who believe they should have special privileges courtesy of the religion they profess to follow.

easter for some people it would mean travelling a very long distance to find a school which was non-denominational. Not everyone has a luxury of having a large variety of schools to chose from. If they do have a choice of non-denominational school(s) then you have a valid point though.

I send my children to non-denominational school Easter Igg

Every school in Britian is required by law to have an act of worship of "wholly or mainly Christian character" every day.

Halfpastwine - why do you think we could not function as a secular society without religion in the workplace/education?

I have just caught up with all the replies on this thread, it's very interesting indeed. [csmile]

" No worship in my school, or preaching (though we do teach children about a variety of faiths and also humanism)."

Then your school is breaking the law.

No buttonmoon, we have a state which places christianity in the political spehere. Legally. Enshrined by law. And here was I thinking we lived in the 21st century. In a democracy

CurrySpice I live in Britain too and that is not the rule on religious observance which is in force here.

I do get a little tired with folk on MN thinking England/Wales is the entirety of the UK.
My school is breaking no law, Seeker, though thanks for that.

No EasterIgg - if you live in Britian its' not a rule. It's the law. because we do not live in a secular society

For the record, thought slightly left field of recent comments - I believe the issues and questions over the resurrection story are the most hotly debated topics amongst Christian leaders -

Explain, EasterIgg.

There are bishops influencing legislation in the House of Lords and Compulsory Christian orshop in schools.

Which country did you say you lived in?

In that case (xpost) EasterIgg, if you are in Scotland there is a requirement for "regular acts of Religious Observance". The situation is similar in Norther Ireland I believe

The point is, Christianity is enshrined by law in our schools because we do not live in a secular society. I resent that

Shame the school you attended failed to teach you arithmetic seeker

I wasn't intending to be intolerant, simply to ask why you put up with such apparent persecution over your lack of a faith. I apologise if my words came across in such a way. My faith would not drive you out of the UK. As I stated a little earlier, my faith is not the official religion of the country and differs from it in many ways.

I find that my children are taught many things as accepted as scientific fact which I believe are not. I find that my children are taught that some lifestyles are wholly natural and acceptable which I believe are not. I do not feel persecuted because of this - I feel like I live in a tolerant society and am grateful as this enables me to practice my faith without restraint, just as it enables you to practice your unbelief.

If I felt I was persecuted in the UK I would not hesitate to move to another place where I could live free of persecution.

wanksock I don't believe it would work right now because the numbers to support such a society are not there yet.

Just to make sure I'm not talking out of my arse I checked the Scottish Government's (yes we do have one) latest publication on religious observance in schools. No daily prayer etc required.

CurrySpice we do live in a democracy. I wonder how often people say 'I thought we lived in a democracy' purely when that democracy fails to do what they want?

wanksock your name is truly shocking by the way yet very very funny!

Half past wine other countries that you might have heard of which seem to operate pretty as secular states include France, Turkey, the USA, Germany, Sweden, Japan, Brazil, Canada, South Africa, Belgium....shall I go on?

pretty well

Curry yes, please go on, that is why I asked!

I did once go out with Alex Salmond - do I get a prize???

Buttonmoon - so you think that the fact that your children a
re taught about evolution and tolerance for gay people means that I shoud put up with mine being expected to pray?

Yes, you may be right buttonmoon! I wonder how many people put up spurious argument to support their own beliefs because it suits them

Most people in this country are not practising Christians. I believe to enshrine this minority belief in our laws and law-making is anachronistic in a modern democray - so shoot me!