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R.I.P to the 96

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charleneanne · 15/04/2011 18:08

Stuff the Royal Wedding more important to remember is the 96 innocent people that died at Anfield after the disaster struck spare a thought for those and their families instead of the stuck up twats and there stupid pathetic wedding

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Hulababy · 15/04/2011 23:07

I am not sure anyone has suggested you were lying. You do not mention the information about your DH nor your friend in the OP. Many posters only read the OP before posting.

InThisSequinBraYesYouOlaJordan · 15/04/2011 23:08

Einstein1. You, for example, are an arsehole. I am a Hillsborough survivor. You know nothing.

thefirstMrsDeVere · 15/04/2011 23:08

How lovely for those grieving families to have someone with no knowledge or insight trot out the 'it was their own fault' toss.

How can it be your own fault that you get trampled to death?

FFS.

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charleneanne · 15/04/2011 23:09

its not something you want to throw in peoples faces as an op

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Upsy1981 · 15/04/2011 23:09

As far as I can see, the number of deaths was caused by the unwillingness of the police to accept that major problems were occuring in the stand. As far as I can tell they had prejudices about football fans so that even when they were being told that people were really suffering they refused to take it seriously. They then did not respond quickly enough or use their intitiative to respond once they realised what WAS happening.

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charleneanne · 15/04/2011 23:10

Einstein1 you are one horrible hateful unfeeling thing human or animal is to good a word for you yes you must work for the sun paper with the rest of the lying scum

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Hulababy · 15/04/2011 23:11

Possbly - but that is why some confusion may have occured. But from what I can see no one has said you were lying. They most likley had not seen your later post before they typed their message.

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charleneanne · 15/04/2011 23:12

if the police had have opened the gates then not so maany people would have died because there would have been room for escape but no they didnt open the gates they are murderers

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grovel · 15/04/2011 23:19

charlenanne, I suggest you take a deep breath. The police may have fucked up. I've seen nothing to suggest that they were murderers. I'm beginning to think you're a wind-up which would be spectacularly distasteful.

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charleneanne · 15/04/2011 23:19

you are evil einstein 100% pure evil and i feel so sorry for any family you are unlucky enough to have

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exhausted2011 · 15/04/2011 23:19

Einstein, please crawl back into the hole that you climbed out of.

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charleneanne · 15/04/2011 23:22

grovel not at all but if they could see what was happening and people were screaming toopen the gates and they didnt then i am sorry but what would you call them one of the top ones in nthe police force resigned because he said they could have done more to save people

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wook · 15/04/2011 23:24

Einstein, a variety of factors combined to cause the deaths of the 96, but the fans were not the deciding factor in any way. The Taylor report found this for a start.
Also fans attempted to free people from the crush, assisted the police, attempted cpr etc.
I suppose you think they 'pickpocketed' the victims and 'urinated' on them as well do you?
Einstein you aint.

grovel · 15/04/2011 23:26

I might call them incompetent or stupid or unprepared or even negligent (if I knew the story in depth). I would not call them murderers.

GloriaSmut · 15/04/2011 23:27

Not wishing to lessen the awfulness of Hillsborough, I fail to see any connection between its 15th Anniversary and the forthcoming Royal Wedding. Also, why is this in AIBU? Are we being asked to judge on the reasonability of the sort of tiresome competitive mourning that seems to be a speciality on Merseyside? Or what?

fortyplus · 15/04/2011 23:28

charleneanne - I'm pleased that the families of the victims are far more dignified than you - your vitriolic posts do no favours to the cause at all.

Do you imagine that the police who made those errors of judgement don't also have to live with the horror of what happened?

What about those who rushed in at the back and forced the crowd forward? They are as much if not more to blame than the police and yet no one would suggest that they caused those deaths deliberately or that they're murderers.

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charleneanne · 15/04/2011 23:29

excuse me its 22nd anniversary of hillsborough not 15th

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grovel · 15/04/2011 23:29

Gloria, you're obviously not ready for bed?

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charleneanne · 15/04/2011 23:30

the police could have opened the gates leading to less deaths

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GloriaSmut · 15/04/2011 23:30

Excuse me. Please consider my post amended to read "I fail to see any connection between its 22nd Anniversary and the forthcoming Royal Wedding".

thefirstMrsDeVere · 15/04/2011 23:31

This is the first time I have said this but MN has gone totally mental this week.

Bonkers conkers.

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