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R.I.P to the 96

187 replies

charleneanne · 15/04/2011 18:08

Stuff the Royal Wedding more important to remember is the 96 innocent people that died at Anfield after the disaster struck spare a thought for those and their families instead of the stuck up twats and there stupid pathetic wedding

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ChairOfTheBored · 15/04/2011 19:47

I had family at Hillsborough.

They watched those 96 die, needless, preventable deaths. And the treatment of the families afterwards, by the police, the press; don't get me started.

Today is a day for remembrance. I wish all those who mourn comfort, and those still seeking answers peace.

It was a tragedy for Liverpool, and left a deep scar on the cities of Sheffield and lest we forget, Nottingham. But it should never simply be seen as a local issue for these three cities. The conditions and events that lead up to Hillsborough, and the response afterwards (the infamous Sun headline for example) spoke of a wider contempt for football fans, and there are those still seeking justice for their children.

I find the juxtaposition with the Royal Wedding crass, but on a day like today, when the national media seems to care more about the timings of who will sit in what car and when for an event in two weeks time newsworthy, I can understand the feeling that some folk have that there maybe other news that should be aired.

RIP 96, YMWA.

MikeOxstiff · 15/04/2011 19:48

Why?

Why should my heart bleed for people I did not know? It was sad but I would rather enjoy watching the wedding on telly

LDNmummy · 15/04/2011 19:48

Agreed.

Vallhala · 15/04/2011 19:50

Chair, eloquently put. Thank you for explaining the situation to some of the less compassionate on here.

GingerWrath · 15/04/2011 19:55

I am a Forest supporter and it will never be forgotten, but to bring up the Royal Wedding, which has the chance to give the nation a collective chance to celebrate, is totally irrelevant!

ChairOfTheBored · 15/04/2011 19:56

Thanks Vallhala.

It's a raw subject for a lot of people. People are entitled to their views, and I get that the comparison wasn't necessarily put diplomatically.

exhausted2011 · 15/04/2011 20:04

Thanks Chair

wook · 15/04/2011 20:05

I take it OP that you meant that there could be coverage of Hillsborough in the media today rather than some of the more trivial details of the Royal wedding, in which case YANBU and thank you for reminding me of the importance of today's date.

It should be remembered that there has not been justice for the 96- yet(even after twenty two years) and that for those families, the pain continues, with extra injustice piled on top of the pain.

However, life goes on in the face of tragedy, and trivial/happy/joyful events exist alongside the most dreadful occurences- one doesn't/shouldn't detract from the other IMO, so in that sense YABU.

Bottleofbeer · 15/04/2011 20:13

Well Mike, why bother watching the wedding of people you don't even know?

MikeOxstiff · 15/04/2011 20:18

Bottleofbeer
I like the pomp

I didnt know Johnny Cash but I watched the film about his life called Walk the line

penguin73 · 15/04/2011 20:27

On behalf of those who lost someone or knows someone who died please have a bit of respect. Don't use their memory as a way of having a dig about something that is totally unrelated. Go start another thread if you want to have a rant and let those who want to remember do so respectfully.

JemAndTheHolograms · 15/04/2011 20:27

SomethingSuper Fri 15-Apr-11 18:32:30
This sort of thread, in my opinion, confirms every nasty, petty, unkind stereotype about people from Liverpool.

What a horrible, nasty, disgusting and disrespectful comment SomethingSuper. Tell me, are you by any chance a journalist from The Sun? Hmm As a scouser I take GREAT offence to your appalling comment. Now do tell us what city you're from so I can make nasty comments about you! Hmm

RIP 96 YNWA

ChairOfTheBored · 15/04/2011 20:28

Oh, I promised myself I'd walk away from this thread, and after this I will.

You may not know or feel a connection to the 96 and their families. That's fine. You can chose not to mark their deaths, and that's fine too.

I don't think anyone would suggest that you should or feel compelled to do so.

You may or may not know the 'happy couple' (I'd hazard a guess that you don't, but maybe y'all move in loftier social circles than me.) but still chose to enjoy and celebrate their wedding as a thing that gives you happiness.

But I think all the OP may have been getting at is that today there are families for whom the news of the wedding couldn't possibly bring happiness, and it might have been nice to see that marked in the national, rather than local media.

Flisspaps · 15/04/2011 20:30

RIP

JFT96

YNWA

KenDoddsDadsDog · 15/04/2011 20:37

I haven't seen Hillsbrough covered at all on the news today. RIP the 96.

mrswarthog · 15/04/2011 20:47

Jem, super wasn't being disrespectful, was saying that occasionally people say horrible things about liverpudlians and occasionally liverpudlians can live down to those things. For me, many people I know, and the wider football community, today has been bloody awful. Linking these two events was unnecessary. I, like most people can grieve for the dead and take hope from people taking joy in the future. Stop this now please.

SomethingSuper · 15/04/2011 20:49

No Jem, I am a scouser too and what I meant was that aggressive, ill thought out posts like the op confirms some horrible stereotypes about us. But then i read another perspective on her anger from another poster and decided i was probably being arsey inappropriately.

thebestisyettocome · 15/04/2011 20:49

Prince William is the President of the FA iirc and I don't think I've ever seen him refer to what was the biggest disaster in modern football. I don't think there is any real connection between Hillsborough and the Royal Wedding but given the abovementioned fact, I can see why some people could. RIP the '96.

SomethingSuper · 15/04/2011 20:51

Yes, thank you Mrs. I'm on my phone and it's a bit slow.

nancy75 · 15/04/2011 20:52

To all those taht have commented on the lack of news coverage today - maybe that's a good thing. The families of those that died will always grieve and will always find today hard - do they really need to see the footage of it all again and again?

MikeOxstiff · 15/04/2011 20:55

As anyone mentioned the Bradford City fire? 11th May
56 killed and 265 injured

thebestisyettocome · 15/04/2011 20:57

I think that families want as much coverage as possible because there are still questions that need answering.

twirlymum · 15/04/2011 21:01

I realise this may sound trite, but it would probably be mentioned more when it's the 25th anniversary, or the 30th. To go over it every single year is a bit over the top, taken in the context of the many tragedies that have occurred over the years.
I am sure in years to come, September 11th will pass without more than a passing comment. It's all relative.
Yes, it was an appalling thing to happen, but there have been many appalling events, unfortunately.

headfairy · 15/04/2011 21:04

I know that after the 10th anniversary of the Clapham Junction crash the families of the victims said they wouldn't mark it publicly any more.

tjacksonpfc · 15/04/2011 21:12

Speaking as a ardant Portsmouth fan I ill never forget what happened at Hillsborough. I have visited there and Anfield on numerous occasions and always spend soem time to pay my respects at the tributes. Juatice needs to be done for the familes of the 96.

Always in our thoughts.

YNWA

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