"i am sitting here" right. "I am sat here" IS WRONG YOU FUCKERS

[MikeRotch]

amen

carnt?

Ah, while I am in complete agreement that dialect does not excuse poor use of language, I do think that "youse" can actually be regarded as dialect in sime cases.

It is fast becoming "normal" = language variation and change. Linguistics 101, as they might say in the States.

No, 'youse' is dialect. It's much older than the standardization of spelling/punctuation.

"youse" is in common usage in Australia when talking to more than one "you".

I don't have much of an issue with people saying "I am sat here, crying" as opposed to "I am sitting here" - possibly because the "I am sat here" is more of a description and not as relevant or active as the "crying" part of the phrase. I used to know more of the correct grammatical terminology to make more of an argument supporting why I don't particularly disagree with this usage (but it being quite commonly said where my Dad was brought up might have something to do with it, familiarity of usage makes it more acceptable)

However - use "loose" instead of "lose" and I will take your head off at the shoulders!

I cannot believe I am reading a thread where people are slagging off others with bad grammar, when they are using foul language - kind of defeats the object from my point of view.

Isn't "youse" a Dublinism as well? Which might go someway to explain its translocation to New York and Australia.

You was wasn't you. grr!

I did teacher training in Liverpool, and because 'youse' is commonly used there as a plural form of you, the language teachers referred to it while explaining the different French forms of you.

of and have is almost worse than less and fewer :/

I should of known someone would mention that one.

Has anyone else noticed people starting every sentence with "so"?. For example, Q: " What is the meaning of this phenomenon........?"
A: " So, it's a common way to start a sentence".
Am I alone in noticing/hating this so much?

I hate "ten items or less" at checkouts. I seethe

Fewer fewer fewer fewer fewer!

And that's another one. Breathe for breath and vice versa. Gah!

Claret, I've noticed the "So..." particularly when scientists / sociologists etc are explaining their findings on the radio.

IME all Australian cricketers begin every sentence with "Ah, look, ...".

Oh good, I'm not alone, Inertia. I think you're right, on reflection, it does seem to be particularly rife with them. I have noticed it creeping in with politicians too, though.

Maybe the sociologists have an excuse.

buggerlugs...I hate to kick you when you're down but 'thickos' doesn't need an apostrophe. And you meant 'whose' rather than 'who's'. And grammar rather than grammer.

Sorry if I've missed this but why did one poster suggest 'is wrong' is wrong?

I'm not a fan of 'gotten' as a past participle but I don't think I have a leg to stand on since it's apparently Old English and not an Americanism as is commonly thought.

Also really dislike 'Can I get....' in restaurants and so on. I don't suppose it's incorrect grammatically but I think it sounds hideously rude.

I also dislike "gotten". Its an American preservation of an earlier form of speech, but I'm not convinved that its taken out of place in its now common useage and should correctly appear at the end of the sentence.