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to say no to scans for ex.

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chunkybum · 30/03/2011 21:44

So I have just got off the phone to my ex, our baby is due in 6 months.
I have asked him to decide what he would like to do for the baby etc.
he replied 'well im coming to the scans, you cant F-ing stop me'.
I explained that I was only prepared to have him there if i could trust him enough and that he needed to meet before etc for coffee or something to break the ice a bit first.
We split up on the back of him being a bit horrid and i said i couldnt see him anymore.
He has suggested that i get RID as he puts it.

I am very uncomfortable around him because he can be very aggressive too.
He then said and let me know what i need to buy for my house as ill be having the baby all weekends.
I was like 'er no, it dosent work like that, i need to be able to trust you so we can build up contact over time and the more trust you gain the more le-way ill let u have'
he then stated' you cant fucking stop me seeing my fucking kid alright, and im coming to the scan and u can stop that either'
im not happy being around someone that feels its ok to talk to me like this.
where do i stand, i dont want him at the scan, i dont want him near me at all.
is that unreasonable, to not allow him there, and to want limited contact till i can trust him properly.
he does not have a brilliant track record with aggression and im genuinly scared that he would loose it with the baby, not hit the baby, just shout lots and swear lots.
Also I want to breast feed but he says he will give the baby a bottle when he has him/her. I dont want the baby to have a bottle as my other kids have allergies/ intollerances to dairy!!!!
i have posted this in loan parents before i knew this AIBU bit was here. sorry!!!

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TheSecondComing · 30/03/2011 22:56

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Cymar · 30/03/2011 22:56

AFAIK, there may have been some sort of law/legislation put through that if you don't put the name of the father down (if you know who he is) then you may be breaking the law (not sure of consequences). I think this is for maintenance reasons so that feckless fathers contribute to their children. Although, I'm not 100% sure on this though and it needs to be checked.

bubblecoral · 30/03/2011 22:57

Ok, maybe I'm missing something that is glaringly obvious to the rest of you, I realise that as Chunky has posted more details it does seem likely that the ex could well be absusive.

I think I my opinion is just that while all abusive men start out with agressive shouting, not all men that shout agressively turn out to be abusers.

Chunky, if you feel you can support five children by the age of 27, financially and emotionally, you are a braver, stronger woman than me! Your choices are nobody's business but yours, and you don't have to justify keeping your own baby to anyone.

chunkybum · 30/03/2011 22:58

im sorry i dont understand what was offensive about what i said, I was simply asking the person to justify why is was ok to tell me i was mad to keep this baby, i was not posting about whether i should keep the baby or not i was actually asking about access so i think it was very insensitive to even bring that up anyway. If i wanted peoples opinions on wheter i should keep it or not i would have asked!!!
sorry but if you dont wnat people to talk about terminations you should not bring it up in a post that is asking something else. sorry but that is just my opinion.

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FriggFRIGG · 30/03/2011 22:59

my friend had a baby with a man like this,
all he wants is to control you.
he does not care about the baby.

dont put his name on the birth certificate.
it will save you A LOT of trouble.

BaronessBomburst · 30/03/2011 23:00

TheSecondComing Can we have a link? Is there more to this?

pigletmania · 30/03/2011 23:00

Well this guy has no hope of financially suppporting the baby if he flits from one job to another.

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ledkr · 30/03/2011 23:02

shirleyknot-do you think it is respectfull to suggest a person has a termination who is clearly continuing with a pregnancy?I think op showed restaint in not hitting the roof. I do however agree with being carefull with the way it is talked about.

TheSecondComing · 30/03/2011 23:03

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FriggFRIGG · 30/03/2011 23:03

oh,really....has something been sussed ?

ShirleyKnot · 30/03/2011 23:04

Oh do an advanced search.

One minute it's a mum of five whose friend keep telling her to get back out there (this was Monday) and tonight it's this.

TheSecondComing · 30/03/2011 23:05

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ShirleyKnot · 30/03/2011 23:05

Ledkr are you talking about MY post to her? My post was about her friends reaction and the fact that she was steering clear of her

Sigh why am I bothering this is all just a load of shite.

PeterAndreForPM · 30/03/2011 23:06

there is a pic on the profile

Birdsgottafly · 30/03/2011 23:06

He can quite easily prove that he is the father, be granted joint parental responsibility and be put on the birth certificate by taking the OP to a family court. It is pointless denying that he is the father and if you do that will go against you.

Men can make terrible partners but good dads. If someone told you that you could not see your DC, would you not swear and be abusive?

Note your concerns now and all aggressive incidences, he will be granted supervised access at first. If he is as you say then you can get a restraining order against him, he has no legal right to go to the scan. Be strong and do not give in to bullying for a quiet life, it sounds like you won't have one regardless. The court would uphold the babies right to be breastfed and he would not get overnight access. Set bounderies now and adhere to them. You may have a battle with his mother as well.

ledkr · 30/03/2011 23:09

shirley sorry if i got it wrong,i did try to get it right before i stuck my oar in.I just thought that anyone who suggests a termination to a pg woman they dont know is a tad forward,sorry if that wasnt you.

The op has been on another thread with me and pete,i didnt smell a rat did you pete?

Birdsgottafly · 30/03/2011 23:09

FriggFRIGG - i take it then that your friends child was born before 2003?

PeterAndreForPM · 30/03/2011 23:13

no, ledkr, if this was a fairy story, I fell for it (unusual for me)

Newgolddream · 30/03/2011 23:14

"why would i be mad to have this baby???
my best friend thinks the same btw, im not ARGUING, im just curious as to why you think its ok for me to terminate this baby??"

Its just peoples opinion stat he end of the day OP - whereas its your life. People may look at you circumstances, young, 4 kids already and another on the way and your chaotic circumstances and give their opinion because termination is always a choice for a woman in the here and now. So why wouldnt it have been ok to terminate - its all about your choice, and if you dont want to do that then thats fine of course but Im sure lots of women in your circumstances may have considered it.

Im torn between believeing its much better for a child to have a father who plays an active role in their life even if the parents arent together against the very real concerns you have about your ex. Part of the problem I think is the complexities of your relationship and your wishes, as if this was a rebound relationship (when did your marriage break up?) you sound like you have lots of issues that need looked at and talked over. Dont let this man - or anyone else come to that - tell you what to do - its your life. Take advice from here and rl by all means but at the end of the day you need to put yourself and your children first. Think about what attracted you to this man - and why - if you are keeping this baby then he will be its Dad, tbh the last thing that it sounds like you need just now is a relationship - e.g. what are your feelings towards your husband?

Violence and aggression are always a clear warning sign I feel - but just because hes a lousy partner doesnt necessarliy mean he will make a lousy Dad. Ive been a single Mum and Ive also had children when married and in a stable relationship, I know what I prefer - but of course life rarely works out the way we planned. My DSs Dad left me when I was 7 months pregnant - apart from being devastated I just got on with things, as you do when children are involved. He phoned me when DS was 1 - and I was considering letting him see DS.

Then a week later he drowned in an accident. I would like to think I would have let him see DS - but he had all sorts of issues and things I dont need to go into - which made me suspect he may snatch DS, that type of thing. (He had previously walked out on a partner and son So by all means arrange access when your baby is born - but under your rules.

It sounds like your scared of him - but remember he cant hurt you or terrorise you anymore, under no circumstances let him come to any more scans - it should be a happy pleasurable experience for you, which it wouldnt be if he was present. Also as far as I thought you cant put a man on a birth certificate anyway if he is not present, at least thats what it is here in Scotland because if you could a woman could choose "any" man as a Father, so here the Dad has to either register the birth himself with the form you get when you give birth, or be with the Mum when the baby is being registered.

So theres NO WAY he can force you to give your baby his name.

bristolcities · 30/03/2011 23:15

My son was born in 07 and at the time it was suggested by SS that i didn't put darling daddy's name on the cert for very similar behavior to OP babyfather.. So you do still have that choice if you want it.

TheSecondComing · 30/03/2011 23:16

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GypsyMoth · 30/03/2011 23:20

i missed the 'rob' thread.......was it good??

ledkr · 30/03/2011 23:20

im confused and i should be going to sleep now,is she a troll pete? I will slap my own face for falling for that,and im amazed you did too,Was it fat arse?we were on hmh thread with?

Birdsgottafly · 30/03/2011 23:21

bristolcities-did you ex DP then go through court to gain PR? That is what counts not the childs surname or BC.