They're coming into our country and they don't even have to register to claim benefits now

[bupcakesandcunting]

Not the words of me but of Alf Garnett my mother.

I feel that she has reached the pinnacle of twattery. AIBU to tell her to shut the fuck up with this? Honestly, it makes me so fucking angry, especially when it is punctuated with "I read it in the newspaper", like that makes it definitely true.

oh I know the real unemployement that exists around the country - I live in one of the highest areas of unemployment in the southern half of the UK.

RunWithScissors - thankfully exH (and I - but I'm British I was just returning home) came to the UK before they changed it all. We paid the equivalent of 2yrs of our wages in the country we were the living in for his visa, subjected to a interview at the British High Commission by the nastiest man I have ever met , and then had an agonising wait while we waited to find out whether they'd let him come with me. If they'd have said no, as they did to many at that time, we'd have been screwed, because I was British (And relations with the UK were pretty bad at that point in Zimbabwe) they had refused to renew my visa (despite the fact I had a job) and was on a one month "rolling" visa which I had to have stamped at the immigration office. They had set a final date in the April when I HAD to leave by.

Anyhow, once we'd paid out all the money his indefinite leave to remain was free 1yr later once he'd submitted all his papers to the immigration people. He looked at citizenship a few years ago but as you say the costs were astronomical ad simply out of our reach despite us both working at the time.

I work for a Construction Company and we employ two joiners from Lithuania, they are hard working and will work Sats & Sundays when UK workers refuse. They live in meagre bedsits in an undesirable area even though they earn good £ and sen most of it home for thie families. It is strange that they can claim CB when their kids live overseas but other than that they don't claim and pay tax etc..

bupcakes arf at 'illegal asylum seekers'. Can't count how many times I've had that argument...

Britain is awash with them in their free cars, expensive medical conditions, 10 kids each and sense of entitlement apparently.

I do sometimes wonder wish if I was adopted.

www.vote-no-to-bnp.org.uk/2010/03/exploding-the-bnp-myths-on-immigration-justvoteno.html

Just some basic challenges...

A few years ago my MIL was very concerned when a family originating from Nigeria bought the house next to her. She thought they'd fill the roof with relatives and cook curry 24 hours a day, and various other ideas she'd got from being a lifelong Daily mail reader ??? (Such stupid things I had to hide my laughing).

Anyway they moved in and a nicer family you could not meet, absolutely lovely neighbours. Always doing things for her, very considerate and quiet, well behaved kids, hard working and so on.

It was very satisfying to watch her eat those words, and if she ever makes odd comments I only have to remind her about the neighbours...

Hope your mum gets a similar "life lesson" soon.

(I just wanted to say I liked the joke about the banker! )

hahahaha Jazz just watched your link

oh yes the illegal asylum seekers irks me too - you can't by definition be an illegal asylum seeker, as if you're an asylum seeker you have an official legal status

Vickibee- they also weigh up what they can achieve with their wages in their own country. I know of people fron the EU who have worked hard here and bought property from where they are from. Compare that to not even being able to get on the property ladder here. Why should people not have to work a seven day week and spend time with their children?. My husband often spent a weekend in a bedsit as do lots of men, whilst providing for their family but we could not have bought with our money what many can from EU poorer countries.

I think it is unreasonable to tell anyone to STFU, just because you think your opinions are more righteous than their's. Engage in debate, maybe you will convince them, maybe not...

A friends mum came to pick up my friend, as her car had broken down outside our house, we invited her and her husband in for a cup of tea. She walked around our 3 bed end of terrace and eventually exclaimed:

"It is so easy for you foreigners to come to Britain, and make a new life for yourselves on us".

I dont think I have ever been so offended in my entire life (until then).

I came to London as a student, paid insane tuition fees, lived in a room in a warehouse. Moved to another run-down area to live in a house share, without a bathroom (outdoors toilet, and a shower for all to use in me and my dhs bedroom), had a part time job stacking shelves in the library, and doing evening shifts in a pub. He worked morning and evening shifts in the pub, silver service through an agency serving breakfasts in hotels AND studied computing.

We had no access to anything, other than the NHS. No benefits. We both had to manage to carve out a life in a foreign country, where everything worked differently to how things were at home.

Fast forward a few years, we have managed to start our own business, employ people and pay salaries, pay taxes, after working really hard to get there, and then some silly bint comes and judge us, looking at our house and say:

"It is so easy for you foreigners to come to Britain, and make a new life for yourselves on us".

Yeah right.

There is nothing to say to such ignorance, as they will not be able to understand.

Tatty - that's true - and that decision can takes months or even years to come through. And they don't even get "full" benefits as those on JSA or IS do.

I love you Shirls, you fahking caaaaah.

"Oh don't you just love it when you start to notice that you disagree with almost everything a particular poster says on here, and you think to yourself "cor that person seems a bit of an arse but I wonder if I am being uncharitable thinking that?" - and then they go and post something which definitively proves them to be a complete and utter arse and you thus have the green light to blithely ignore every last word they post from now on."

I'm looking at YOU, FabbyChic.

I have been on the receiving end of 'they came here to get our jobs'!

DH and I came to the UK in 2001 and worked our butts off to get a decent education. He was a journalist and I was an insurance professional but when we got here, we worked in nursing homes and cleaned toilets at industrial sites whilst we were sorting out our immigration papers. We lived in a shappy bedsit and never claimed a single penny from the state. DS was born 2 years later and we had an even worse time. I went back to work in a nursing home when DS was 4 weeks old to make ends meet.

Things have since changed. I managed to get a job in insurance and worked my way up. DH started working for a security firm and eventually set up his own company which now employs 16 Brits! We can afford for me to be a SAHM at the moment whilst I wait to go to Uni in Sept. Our children are at a lovely prep school and we own our house.We have never claimed for any benefit or tax credits except the weekly child benefit.

The UK has been extremely kind to us. It has provided us with a safe haven but we have equally worked hard - embracing and appreciating the opportunities that are in here.

Of course there are some who take the micky, but to paint everyone with the same brush is ignorance on so many levels.

OP - YANBU

"It is so easy for you foreigners to come to Britain, and make a new life for yourselves on us".

Why did you not smack her teeth into her colon?

baroque, I think it should be compulsory viewing by all.

I love you too buppy. Yeah, that sort of love. The dirty sort.

If it's not true, why don't you take a look at the Health (I think it was) board from last week about a mn'ers aunt flying in from Bangladesh with TB. I don't think she was coming here for the weather.

I'm not saying it's "always true", but there is evidence on mn alone.

Quint - my exIL's (who I still get on with very well) have had the same they came here with nothing -

SIl1 and her DH, came to the UK (with their 2 young children) , she was on a student visa training to be a nurse, her DH was on a work visa in transport. They managed to both get work visas when she finished her training, he went on to set up his own company (courier/transport), and after managing a care home for a while my SIL has recently set up her own business - and they have also, now got their citizenship. they lived in a lovely house, in a lovely area, with all the mod cons and have worked for every tiny little of it.

SIL2 and her DH came (childess) to the UK, also on work visa (now citizens). He is a pharmacy manager and she has recently done (another! - she already had a string of them, and post grads) degree to work in family support. They too live in a lovely house, with their 2 children that they've had since they've been here.

They have worked their bloody arses off to get where they are now and it most certainly wasn't handed to them on a plate!

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I remember watching a "documentary" about the appalling wives of BNP members. One was heavily pregnant and refused to have a non-British midwife deliver her baby.

I sincerley hope that should she have a heart attack/stroke/life-threatening injury, that any non-British doctor leaves her to get on with it. Ignorant, thick, fucking skank.

bupcakes, because I am polite, and I did not want to embarrass my friend any further.

But I did say to her "oh, I think it is a lot easier for a Brit to make it in Britain, at least they know how things work here better than most foreigners, and they dont have any language difficulties either".

She did make a catbum face at that.....

Baroque - we Zimbabwean are hardworkers!

I think STFU is an entirely reasonable response to someone talking out of their arse actually :)

"If it's not true, why don't you take a look at the Health (I think it was) board from last week about a mn'ers aunt flying in from Bangladesh with TB. I don't think she was coming here for the weather."

For NHS care or private? Link to thread please. I would like some context.