They're coming into our country and they don't even have to register to claim benefits now

[bupcakesandcunting]

Not the words of me but of Alf Garnett my mother.

I feel that she has reached the pinnacle of twattery. AIBU to tell her to shut the fuck up with this? Honestly, it makes me so fucking angry, especially when it is punctuated with "I read it in the newspaper", like that makes it definitely true.

Christine is right. Thank you, Christine. :)

You can live wherever you please and keep your roots. My father's family is proof. You can integrate AND keep your roots. Check dis for some crazeeee shit.

How do you know Ihavent got some?
I actually have a fine well balanced pair,which I keep wholly in proportion, and what.s more, I don't go on & on & on & on about their bloodlines.

I think a few of the posters on this thread could learn a thing or two from my facial cheesecakes

And I think (our glory days of Empire notwithstanding) that the British have a huge sense of entitlement. I have spent some enjoyable time on the recent Tripadvisor Thread. So many laughable comments about how these resorts abroad serve foreign food, and cliches about all the other European nations. Germans - sunbeds, spanish - rude, french - even more rude. It goes on.

Robf There are very few true indigenous people that exist, those that do is because they have remained in isolation from other races. I.e small groups of Native Americans, Aboriginals, inuits (more commonly known ones) then there are very small communities. Normally true indigenous people that exist now would have been on Islands or a great distance from any other interference. Britain has been invaded/pillaged by many different peoples over thousands of years that true indigenous will have been long gone now unless there is some group that's been hiding in a cave all his time genetically that would be a disaster for them. The same thing will happen with Native Americans etc, over time just that occurred in Britain long ago.

How do I know you haven't got some what? If the answer aint face cheesecake, I aint interested.

pervert.

After living out of the country for just over 5 years I think you are a changed person for having lived away. I can see the good and bad about home and I think we are prone to a little Englander mentality. A few years away should cure that.

Thankyou! I was starting to think I was going mad just then...

Eh? I think you missed the bit where I expressed my pride in my matching facial desserts.read stuff more carefully in future please.

Right..............anyhow, blood and water. which is the most important...........and do some people have thicker blood than others...........

oh and I do hope that OliPolly comes back to the thread -That woman has GOOD taste (yes I know exH turned out to be a bit of a tosser - but he's not a totally bad egg) in her choice of educational establishments from which to chose a DH

We can all clutch together (will there be wine?)

God I really need to go to bed Stop talking, time for lights out you lot!

I think Britain is experiencing a 'culture shock' right now. For many years Britain was seen as 'Midsummer' white and over the past say 10 years or so we have had an influx of immigrants and asylum seekers. Many people find this hard to come to terms with and feel threatened that their 'Englishness' is going to be taken away. Some people don't cope well with change.

Actually this has raised an interesting question for me. If we are talking about long term immigrants to the UK, it would be entirely reasonble to expect that a) they speak/learn to speak English b) they became British Citizens and/or conform to the social mores of Britishness? Yes?

Now I am a potentially long term immigrant in Belgium. This a crazy place, with 3 languages, no government and mad drivers. No way on earth will I become Belgian. Yet I love it here!

actually the currenty trend towards immigration into this country over emigration started in the 70's

Of course before that we had the Poles, Italians and West Indians just after the war, and a whole load more that you can read about \link{http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2002/race/short_history_of_immigration.stm\here}

I love Canada, i'm not and never will love hocky, they may kick me out. My DS's correct my English in favour of American English, sneakers, garbage ,chips.......i'm stuck in the middle, it'a an immigrants curse

you'll see at the end of the article (a good few years old - but still relevant) that it says

"Fifty years after the start of mass immigration to the UK"

You see that fifty

\link{http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Blackhistorymonth/Pages/Blackhistorymonthintroduction.aspx\immigration to support the then fledging NHS}

Ah you see and there is the irony Porto. My parents are prime examples of cupcake's mum's rants but they lived in Belgium for 20 odd years, could barely speak French (they relied on their children) and spoke no Flemish, despite living in a Flemish commune for most of that time. So a wee bit hypocritical I feel!

I hate to say this to you but YANBU for once.

oh and I forgot (the last link doesn't mention them) the 3000 Asian doctors working in the NHS in the 1950's.........

@fabby! I'm sick and tired of that sort of line, its like my favourite one about "illegals" getting free houses, benefits and cars! I mean- let's examine the logic, if they're illegal they're hardly likeliy to make their presence known- are they?

somewhat off topic - but last year exH totally unintentioally had 2 lodgers staying with him who both turned out to be illegal immigrants ! They worked, paid their rent on time, and seemed perfectly "normal" people (they actually helped moving my stuff when I moved out - so I had them in my home for a short while as well and bought them beer and pizza as a thank you!).

They (police) picked one of the two blokes up at a random stop and search they had to crack down on drugs in town - and found all wasn't as it should have been. First thing exH knew of it was a call from the police/immigration asking if he was the LL and being told that they needed to search his house and see his documentation. Thankfully exH knew exactly where all his paperwork was - in his own bedroom, and gave the officers the information they needed to find it over the phone. They checked his papers out and left his room alone but turned the rest of the house upside down.

Poor ol exH came home from work that day to find his house like a bomb had hit it, his lodgers gone - and all their stuff still in the house (and it was down to him to get rid of it all)

There are many many immigrants who come to the UK and make huge contributions. My family are one of many who came, saw, remained and contributed. Funnily enough two generations later only one of us has remained in the UK. My sister and I have migrated to the US where we earn far more and have a better lifestyle than we ever could in the UK.

The problem is that there seems to be more immigrants who have come to the UK in recent times who have no intention of making a contribution to British society. Why these people are allowed to remain is beyond me. It does annoy me that their children born in the UK get automatic citizenship while my child, born in the US won't qualify because I was born in Canada (my father was working for the British government at the time and was posted abroad).

they don't get automatic citizenship

i get really get mad with horrible xenophobic attitudes but something shocked me last week,

i was, in the course of my job, speaking with a translator, she is from another country translating for the NHS. she told me about some very widespread fraud taking place that is so stunningly easy to affect i was in total shock. i truly had thought it was all a myth orchestrated to make people distrust certain cultures.

she said she had kept her mouth shut because she didnt feel it was her place to rumble anyone, that it wasnt her business, (until it became her business when someone threatened her)

i dont know what the answer is but there are some bloody massive loopholes that do need to be closed.

only read the first page - you're a complete bigotted t* FABBYCHIC. You must be a divorced bitter little old woman. WHy dont you go and live in australia, if you love their rules so much? You may be following your ancestors my moving there you know? ha ha.