They're coming into our country and they don't even have to register to claim benefits now

[bupcakesandcunting]

Not the words of me but of Alf Garnett my mother.

I feel that she has reached the pinnacle of twattery. AIBU to tell her to shut the fuck up with this? Honestly, it makes me so fucking angry, especially when it is punctuated with "I read it in the newspaper", like that makes it definitely true.

Fabbychic, I know you posted this ages ago but I have to respond. You said: "There are far too many freeloaders coming into the UK and reaping the rewards of our free for all state."

Were you referring to the "freeloaders" coming to the UK, or the "freeloaders" from the UK who, not all that long ago, emigrated en masse, took over other people's countries, bled them dry of their wealth and called it their Empire?

What goes around comes around, eh?

RobF can you answer the question? Don't the British owe a debt? I hate avoidance.

I'm half british half Polish. Also a direct descendant of the Stuart line (James 11 and all that, 8 or 9 times great grandaughter I think ) and a great niece of the boss of the Polish Resistance. If history had made me more ennobled than I currently am (don't get me wrong, I'm happy), I'd let every immigrant into Britain than wanted to come and I'd make them welcome what's more. Hybrid vigour is great, human dignity is pretty cool too. I might even be tempted to see that 'indigenous' types worked on the bins and that Poles and other similar types went straight into the City on fat bonuses which I couldn't be bothered to tax.

Oh well, keeps me from being too bored filling the dishwasher and doing Parents' Evenings etc.

Ther's some pretty grim stuff on this thread.

RobF has fallen into the misapprehension that because immigrants tend to work in unskilled jobs in their first few years in a new country, they are therefore unskilled and uneducated.

Actually, it's just as likely that qualifications don't translate. Almost every taxi driver I have, here in Australia, is Pakistani, and every time we get chatting he turns out to be a qualified teacher or lawyer, who is driving cabs while he studies a bridging course to have those qualifications recognised. Often those bridging courses are two years.

The greatest number of illegal immigrants in this country by FAR are New Zealanders and the English, and usually they work unskilled jobs because their qualifications don't check out and/or they want cash-in-hand work because they're not registered. They don't receive benefits. The ones employed legitimately do pay taxes, the cash-in-handers don't. I understand that the exact reverse scenario exists in English, with Aussies and Kiwis.

Astoundingly, no-one makes assumptions about how everybody in England must be poor and unskilled on the basis of the illegal over-stayers. Funny, isn't it?

sprogger - What are you going on about my love.

My point was that Canadians are proud of being Canadian and would reject the idea that because their ancestors were not born here that they are not Canadian.

Please point out where I said that Canada doesn't welcome immigrants and that Canada isn't proud to welcome immigrants, I am myself an immigrant to Canada

And if you don't think that some white Canadians can't be anti immigration you are very naive.