They're coming into our country and they don't even have to register to claim benefits now

[bupcakesandcunting]

Not the words of me but of Alf Garnett my mother.

I feel that she has reached the pinnacle of twattery. AIBU to tell her to shut the fuck up with this? Honestly, it makes me so fucking angry, especially when it is punctuated with "I read it in the newspaper", like that makes it definitely true.

LDNMummy PMSL @ "muslamic law" HAHAHA

Thought this 'new coalition government' was going to do something about this?

FabbyChic - Immigrants can't claim any benefits for at least the first two years - (under the shortest visa, it can be much longer if at all) - not even child benefit, can't have their names on forms for council housing, and are likely be charged for health care privately unless in certain circumstances (I became pregnant in my first year and was given private payment forms for the medical care after hospital treatment for hyperemesis. Thankful, due to an agreement with the US and the specific visa I was on, I could sign up after much paperwork as an NHS patient for the hospital during the pregnancy, but not the other benefits typically given at pregnancy such as dental or eye care).

And I did have to prove my income and ability to provide for myself before I could have either my marriage or indefinite leave to remain visas. I had to give a pile of bank statements, letters from employers, and had to have it all looked over with a fine tooth comb (while paying a few hundred quid for the priviledge of having someone look over the paperwork regardless of the outcome) on top of having my marriage questioned and looked at under a magnifying glass. Immigrating here is not easy - it's an expensive, somewhat degrading process (particularly for Citizenship, it's easily a grand to go through that whole process).

yy chica.

I know a couple who moved over to Spain a few years ago. She's very ill and has had exceptional healthcare over there. Now that the economy over there has gone down the pan, they are struggling - I think when they went obviously the exchange rate was better and the food was cheaper etc etc. And of course they weren't having to pay rates or owt like that. They are utterly skint now and have decided that the only option left open to them now if to come back to the UK and go on benefits.

This is HONESTLY the truth. I'm not sure what part of this I'm meant to be cross about.

Realise I got my rantypants on. Wasn't ranting at you Bupcakes as I did actually get what your OP was saying (that your Mum is a right dafty). Once I started typing that red mist came down.

I do wonder what BNP types make of us colonial types coming back to Blightly, with our undiluted blood and funny accents.

Chica my mother has a penchant for moving to various foreign countries to work because the money is better and she doesn't have to pay UK tax.

Economic migrant much?

Apparently it's different

She'd never marry a furriner though bupcakes

You can tell we have fun at family parties... Yes the whole family share her views too. Sigh.

Plenty of people who are born here who contribute nothing and never will and they can still claim numerous benefits

BTW I am Canadian and also came here on an ancestry visa. I didn't have to line up a job before I arrived, but as others have said you have zero recourse to public funds for 4 years apart from the NHS. Oh, and bizarrely I was allowed to vote since I was Commonwealth.

Even after getting ILR in 2003 I have never claimed a penny for anything else in the 12 years I've been here, apart from a tiny bit of SSP in the last few months, and now SMP and CB come June.

Sadza and Castle

I think the Castle would be infinitely better than the wha was it Colmobard 57 (ir was it 37, or 47?) and another really cheap one that tasted like vinegar

True coccyx, we have already enough to cope with.

My SIL and family live in Australia and got citizenship there recently.....

DNs FB has currently got a load of racist remarks that are really offensive about 'fucking immigrants' etc

'dirty worm ridden black c**ts' .

'They should be put on a boat and sent back to their war torn countries'.

I deleted SIL last year after a similar outburst.

They are so thick they don't seem to realise that THEY are immigrants.
I think i'll stay in England.

sprogger - I am in awe of anyone who has taken and passed the citizenship test - I've been on numerous threads here on MN (and other forum) where the sample test has been done for fun by British people, born and bred in here.........and most of them failed

BTW i know this because SIL is still on DPs FB and DNs posts came up on hers as she had commented so DP checked it out and was

DC are appalled.

Well I'm off to eat the homemade Ethiopian food my lovely Ethiopian friend went through pains to make and get to me as I have been craving it. There are definitely some imports that come with immigration I cannot live without

And judging from my group of friends which includes German, Spanish, Polish, Ethiopian, Zimbabwean, Turkish, Egyptian, Tunisian, Jamaican, Colombian, Sudanese, Arabic, Lithuanian, Japanese, Morrocan and me (mixed heritage) etc... Multiculturalism has not failed, there is something else missing, and that is education.

My gran used to go off on one along the lines of OP's mum. She hated being reminded that she was the daughter of a Latvian immigrant.

Sorry all. I am not completely English. Guess I wont be invited to the party.

Never mind. I am sure I will be sailing off into the sunset with jonny deep by then. Off to someone else's country to steal their jobs.

Oh, almost forgot Indian and Pakistani. Probably a few more in there but cannot remember right now.

Op: ask yourself this - do benefit claiming immigrants give a flying fuck about me? - would any of them care if I dropped dead tomorrow? so why am I putting their feelings before those of my own mother?

Of course you can put your mother right on these issues - but to take the piss out of her on an Internet forum is pretty low.
It's disrespectful to say the least.

I love multiculturalimsismmism.

It gave us:

kebabs
pizza
curry

What's not to like?!

I have wondered about this stuff for ages. On the one hand, it appears to me that half the claims in the press are a load of RRRRs - it seems they are according to this

tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-pcc-doesnt-work.html

On the other hand, the record of governments and civil servants in telling the truth about who's been paid what (often in error) isn't exactly outstanding.

Bloody hell. Get over yourself carmina.

Carmina seems to have had a Daily Mail OD. Someone call an ambulance.

erm Carmina, bupcakes is not the ops real name. I doubt her mother knows. And we dont know either of them, so really, it is irrelevant.

Woken up with a touch of worthyness today carmina?