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They're coming into our country and they don't even have to register to claim benefits now

454 replies

bupcakesandcunting · 24/03/2011 09:28

Not the words of me but of Alf Garnett my mother.

I feel that she has reached the pinnacle of twattery. AIBU to tell her to shut the fuck up with this? Honestly, it makes me so fucking angry, especially when it is punctuated with "I read it in the newspaper", like that makes it definitely true.
Angry

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hairylights · 24/03/2011 19:02

I find Fabbychics comments quite difficult to understand.

If people are in genuine need and are fleeing persecution etc, then of course we should help them.

The largest population of illegal immigrants in Britain are those from Australia and New Zealand who have outlived their visas.

LDNmummy · 24/03/2011 19:02

It works both ways BTW, all the 'ggod' jobs in my country outside of politics belong to foreign workers. Jobs in engineering, oil, gold and other jobs such as these are taken by foreign workers, including many brits. This has been going on for generations, and it is only now that, very painfully slowly, that is starting to change with my generation.

Even my grandfather was a Scotsman who came to my country as an engineer building railways and roads. He like many of his peers 'stole the local wimmin' including my grandmother, knocked her up then dissapeared when my mum was two and he couldn't take his mixed race baby back to his home country with him.

So...

LDNmummy · 24/03/2011 19:06

And there are lots of people from my country who have heritage such as mine because of similar circumstances. There are quite a few Johnson's for instance in my region of my West African country, and other British or European names. My mum knows the more common one's, I will have to ask her about it again. My mum also has a Scottish name.

ChristinedePizan · 24/03/2011 19:06

LDNmummy - don't you go pointing out how the British have been raping and pillaging other countries for centuries. Far too sensible :o

LDNmummy · 24/03/2011 19:08

Grin far too sensible indeed!

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 24/03/2011 19:15

goodness we can' have sensible Shock this is a pity party...........remember???????

RunAwayWife · 24/03/2011 19:20

The benefits system is broken and does get abused weather it is by Jonny English of Jonny foreigner it should not be allowed to happen.

mathanxiety · 24/03/2011 19:29

The Roma people sure have it good.

marmaladetwatkins · 24/03/2011 19:39

Hundreds, blighter? Hundreds of families? Really? Unless you work in an airport or a detention centre for immigrants then I think you are talking from your bottom.

marmaladetwatkins · 24/03/2011 19:41

And anecdotal evidence ain't worth shit. I could come on here and say "last night I shit a gold bullion into the lav, so who says it can't happen?"

LDNmummy · 24/03/2011 19:45

Ah yes, my grandmother on one side was also a Roma gypsy, she ended up in the Middle East most likely fleeing Hitler and his ethnic cleansing programme.

I really am making this a pitty party now, someone pour me a glass of Wine

Can we talk some more about the Muslamic's please Grin

Portofino · 24/03/2011 19:53

There was a family of Roma Gypsies living in the Gare du Nord in Brussels this winter. They don't give people houses here just because there are kids involved. Fortunately a charity offered them accommodation.

RobF · 24/03/2011 19:56

"LDNmummy - don't you go pointing out how the British have been raping and pillaging other countries for centuries. Far too sensible"

The British have also brought a lot of good to the world. The good outweighs the bad IMO. Countries like India and China are on the verge of world superpowers thanks to the British influence. Not to mention the United States and Canada.

Which country was it that outlawed slavery and ensured that other countries abolished it too? Oh yes, it was the British.

Oh and one more thing, the people that reaped the rewards of the British empire are the same ones who benefit from mass immigration today - the rich. The people that suffer from mass immigration are the ones who put in most of the leg-work to establish the British empire - the poor.

Yet we have plenty of poor people begging their oppressors to oppress them some more.

blighter · 24/03/2011 19:57

i live in the south east, what i do for a living is neither here nor there and whether you think i am exagerating? i don't give a shit. i am telling it like it is. this morning where i work there are hundreds literally of economical migrants (asylum seekers is different as fleeing a country for safety) are hanging out instead of working as they do not have jobs but are living in the local council flats. this isn't an opinion, i know this for fact as i work with all the old locals who live with this and are the working class ones who have suffered re schooling, medical care, housing. the liberal left who dominate this site shout racist/idiot to anyone who has an opinion that is not the same as theirs. like ir or not alot of people who used to lean to the left are not so much now as at the end of the day, there are far too many people who have come here at a time when unemployment is rife. social cohesion ain't good. alot of english people, including some immigrants i know who have been here for a long long time, aren't happy. this was obviously going to happen. i observe serious over crowding and lack of understanding. ignoring the situation by thinking all is rosey in the garden is going to make it worse and worse.

LDNmummy · 24/03/2011 20:00

"The British have also brought a lot of good to the world. The good outweighs the bad IMO."

You are an uneducated imbocile if you really think that. I take that very personally knowing what my family have gone through due to colonialism.

The legacy of colonial England in my country is horrid.

AnnieLobeseder · 24/03/2011 20:01

'glittery shit'

LOL!!

This is my new favourite expression. Thanks marmaladetwatkins!!!

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 24/03/2011 20:03

how do you know they don't work differing shifts to you? I was frequently to been seen out and about in town during the day when I was working 30-50 hours a week...........it just so happened I worked nights

Portofino · 24/03/2011 20:04

I was off to a nice pre-Xmas lunch one day with a supplier at a nearby hotel. It had started snowing quite hard. I passed a young woman in a door way begging. She had a tiny baby. These people are "pimped" for want of a better word by Eastern European gangmasters. The advice is not to give them money because they don't get to keep it. I was so Angry and Sad and thought that NO WAY would this happen in the UK, some agency would have intervened.

I live in the heart of Europe - where they supposedly make all the rules, and yet stuff like this happens. The UK seems much more compassionate. But I pay much more tax in Belgium. Belgium, incidentally, opted out of the mass migration thing from the accendant (sp.) EU countries. The UK could have done so but didn't.

MaisyMooCow · 24/03/2011 20:05

LDN Great post @ 19.02, people seems to overlook these things.

Also loving 'Muslamic' !:)

LDNmummy · 24/03/2011 20:07

[bows graciously]

marmaladetwatkins · 24/03/2011 20:12

Yes Ron. I bet that the few remaining North American Induans are thanking their lucky stars that we killed and maimed their forefathers because if we had not have done, America would not be a country populated mostly by burger- scronfing fuckwits.

I said mostly. There are lovely Americans I know...

catinthehat2 · 24/03/2011 20:23

"LDNmummy Thu 24-Mar-11 20:00:50
"The British have also brought a lot of good to the world. The good outweighs the bad IMO."

You are an uneducated imbocile if you really think that. I take that very personally knowing what my family have gone through due to colonialism.

The legacy of colonial England in my country is horrid."

Ketchup for your chip ma'am?

carminaburana · 24/03/2011 20:25

MW; hi - just seen your post addressed to me.
I'm really not sure what I've done to offend you on this thread, as I hadn't even noticed you let alone engaged with you - the reason I mentioned the spelling of a posters name was because I've enjoyed following his posts ( one of the few people on here talking sensibly ) so I thought it only polite to spell his name right - it is only 4 letters after all -Smile

And I'm not offended that you think I talk shite - In fact I'm taking it as a compliment, I really wouldn't want someone who's posts make a bag of quavers look intelligent anywhere near my radar.

MaisyMooCow · 24/03/2011 20:26

catinthehat2 We shouldn't have to pay for the sins of our forefathers.

What's gone before has happened, it's the future we need to look too, learning from the mistakes done before.

ShirleyKnot · 24/03/2011 20:27

Oh this shit just got serious.

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