They're coming into our country and they don't even have to register to claim benefits now

[bupcakesandcunting]

Not the words of me but of Alf Garnett my mother.

I feel that she has reached the pinnacle of twattery. AIBU to tell her to shut the fuck up with this? Honestly, it makes me so fucking angry, especially when it is punctuated with "I read it in the newspaper", like that makes it definitely true.

How dare colonials have a chip on their shoulder eh? When are we supposed to forget the past? Should we just gloss over the holocaust? Pretend genocide didn't happen in what used to be Yugoslavia? Or rapes and genocide in Rwanda? What's the statute of limitations on that kind of thing catinthehat2?

:o

"ChristinedePizan Thu 24-Mar-11 19:06:52
LDNmummy - don't you go pointing out how the British have been raping and pillaging other countries for centuries. Far too sensible"

and some more ketchup for LDNmummy's frendywendy's chippywippy?

carmina you knuckledragging mouthbreather. I am the OP and you pissed me off ages ago. Fancy berating someone else for not reading properly, then not reading properly yourself.

Good to see that your beef with me was because you share the same Jim Davidson views as my dear mother and not because I was "attacking" her on the interwebs.

Oh, and your riposte about the bag if Quavers was truly cringeworthy. Please do not attempt to be witty again as you are not cut out for it :)

""The British have also brought a lot of good to the world. The good outweighs the bad IMO."

You are an uneducated imbocile if you really think that. I take that very personally knowing what my family have gone through due to colonialism.

The legacy of colonial England in my country is horrid."
Where is your country?

Ha ha, Cheerful! I did think of you when writing that because I think you are a lovely American

You're not that bright are you catinthehat?

Well spotted, Christine

I am West African Rob

And Cat, when the children in your family suffer till the present day because of what has happened to your people before, then you will realize how callous your comment is.

Frankly you arent even worth the effort of addressing fully over your comment.

Love the people who are saying there is no such thing as an indigenous Brit, what self loathing the British have. I'm pretty sure if you can trace your ancestors back for hundreds of years you can call yourself a Brit. I live in Canada, try and tell a 5th gerneration Canadian that there is no such thing, ha.

I also love love love the way it's OK to slag off British people as workshy ect, can you imagine saying that about any other group, crazy.

I live in Toronto, 50% of people in the city are not Canadian born, it's a wonderful city, vibrant, diverse, inclusive. Immigration when done well is a positive thing.

I know what you mean about not forgeting the sins from the past

The fucking Romans , French, Vikings etc and who can forgive the muslims from north western Africa for kidnapping thousands of English and irish and selling them into slavery long before europeans started the slave trade

People are saying there is no such thing as an indigenous Brit because there is no such thing as an indigenous Brit! You need to check the dictionary definition of indigenous if you think that there is.

And i'm not apologising to anyone for anything from the past. I'm from a long line of piss poor, working class Mancunians, you think my ancestors had any say in anything political, I don't think so.

I got bored of this hours ago to be honest and went and got all obsessed with face cheesecakes. anyway.

I feel the need to address a point made about the indigenous British. and I'm going to be serious for a moment here, so grab your hats.

Of course there is an "indigenous" British race. I mean, the arguments about whether that actually means the Celts (the Welsh, Scottish and Irish) or some other amazing group of humans is kind of irrelevant really.

I guess that the indigenous population of the UK has always been very fluid. We are only a hop, skip and a jump away from the European continent, so even if we forget the first several thousand years of our "civilisation" (Romans, Vikings, Normans etc) we could in theory talk about the last 100 years for the purpose of racism xenophobia fairness.

Oh, but hang on, then we might have to factor in the massive push in the 1950's for immigration - you know? when we invited people from the "commonwealth" to come and do the jobs no one else wanted to do. So are the descendent of these peoples indigenous? Or not?

And how many generations do we go back?

And also. The fact that all of this has to be brought up is in the face of shit like "the indigenous population is harmed by immigration bollocks" is just, frankly, tiring, boring and well shit.

Oh gosh, wish this hadn't turned into a discussion on who is to blame for what, can we just go back to the OP, get tired of discussions like this.

"What's gone before has happened, it's the future we need to look too, learning from the mistakes done before."

Yes, exactly! Should my mum have to apologise to him every time he walks into the room because her ancestors enslaved his ancestors 400 years ago?

MW - thanks for the advice!

Let's play a game. Following on from my ludicrous immigrant claims post earlier today, let us see who can come up with the most outrageous.

My Wembley for Islam will take some beating.

Oh and Shirls. Do one.

Do one? as in do an outrageous immigrant claim or "do one" as in fuck off?

I never know with you.

Do both. Just to be on the safe side. You gurning chimp.

I am Welsh by blood but I've never lived there. I was raised outside of the UK and didn't move here until I went to University. My mum apparently has a blood group that is most common in North Africa. My son's dad is Irish. My sister's daughter is half-Belgian.

I don't know what British really means but I don't really identify with it. Apparently if I were a naturalised Canadian I would

You are truly the Ernie Wise to my Eric Morecombe Marmalade, you fucking idiot.

OK, so outrageous immigrant claim:

I heard that the government were implementing a clause in the law that means that Polish builders can build a house made out of straw. The fire regs and things aren't relevant because our regulations contravene Human Rights law and so if a Polish builder comes to your house it literally means that they can build your extension out of straw and if it burns down the firemen who attend are OBLIGED to laugh at you and do the Big Bad Wolf blowing face at you.

You read it here. That means it's true.

Now I'll do the other thing. wearing a baseball cap.

Well if you don't identify as being British then no one should eh.

A Canadian whos ancestors came from wherever many years ago would laugh if you told them they are not Canadian, yet British people should suck it up because they have a bit of viking blood from thousands of years ago, fuck me.

For the record, indigenous means occurring naturally in an area or country. For example, you would not find an Inuit born in Scunthorpe unless their parents had emigrated there.

You might FEEL British and you might BE British by nationality but you are not indigenous unless you are sure your bloodline is not intertwined at some point with the blood of another race/nationality.

Sorry that I am having to explain this to adults on a Thursday night.

I fell asleep after 'Welsh' un fortunately. Was it interesting or just more high pitched whining noises? Anybody?