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RESCUE HELPERS UNITE

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staffylover · 14/03/2011 17:36

to being miffed at being threatened and having my account closed?

My son fostered a dog through the above, they are a collection of volunteers who help rehome, mainly dogs, but cats and small furries as well. Without informing RHU he rehomed the dog, which is a big no-no...I bollocked him and the rescue got the dog back. People connected to the rescue, NOT RHU, threatened to castrate my son and send animal rights "friends" to see him. My son is an animal lover and at no time abused, harmed or in any way neglected this lovely dog and in the few days he had the dog he bought the dog a new crate new toys and turned her around from being a manic dog to one that was good with other dogs, walked good on the lead/off the lead and knew her basic commands. I loved doing things for the animals for no return. When this rescue got the dog back they told the woman that she had bitten a child, untrue, but on its website it says it is good with children? Any advice?

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LessNarkyPuffin · 15/03/2011 16:15

And you're here because???

If someone threatened you go to the police.

You're here on a different forum, making accusations about alleged threats made by a memeber of another forum? What do you hope to gain?

And what did the rescue do wrong? According to you it was 'individuals', not the unnamed rescue that made the threats

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CrazyHorse · 15/03/2011 16:21

I'm actually Shock that someone would foster a dog, then within a few days advertise it on gumtree and give it away. The OP collected the dog from it's old home, her son gave the dog away (sold it?)after having it only a few days, and she's surprised she's been banned from the forum.

Shock

If I were the rescue I wouldn't want anything to do with you or your family again.

Regarding the threats, your son should go to the police. That is my advice,as requested in the OP, and as I've already said, YABU to be miffed.

chickchickchicken · 15/03/2011 17:00

i am disgusted that someone who says they are an animal lover would post an incomplete account of a dog rescue which could harm the rescue

of course i do not condone violence but as you and son seem to act so irresponsibly then i cannot say i believe violence was even threatened. did you actually hear the threat? i find your sons behaviour so bizzare and as he has spectacularly broken the trust placed in fosterers how do you know he is telling the truth about the threat? might it in some way be being used to deflect from his own abhorrent behaviour?

i am really cross by this thread. its difficult enough sometimes to get the publics trust in rescue animals but rehoming any dog without proper assessment is truly awful. 3 days Shock is not enough time to reliably and safely be able to determine a suitable home. yes it is enough time to teach sit, down, etc but that is all

Vallhala · 15/03/2011 17:17

It seems to me that there is only one reason why the rescue cannot be named and that's because they might take legal action for libel.

There is no reason at all for the OP to refuse to name the rescue concerned just because they think that the rescue will deny any threats or impropriety. That's a bizaare and nonsensical reason for refusing to name them.

The RSPCA will deny threatening to kill dogs because they are "too ugly" to rehome, Manchester 'Dogs Home' claim not to kill healthy dogs but I know for a fact that these things have happened and and their denials won't stop me from naming these two dreadful institutions.

If the rescue have done wrong, name them. If they deny your allegations, OP, so what? It's not as if a denial from the rescue is going to make your story sound less convincing or unacceptable than it already does, is it?

digdaddy21 · 15/03/2011 17:34

so why is rhu being mentiond and a blatent refusel to name this rescue who threatend a 20 yr old kid

am off to re read this whole thread

is it rhu the op is complaing about or the rescue threatning her son

Vallhala · 15/03/2011 17:42

I'm not sure myself digdaddy but RHU's policy on closing member accounts is clearly laid out on their forum. They have a set procedure for investigating problems which is laid out for all to see on the forum - this includes what they do when considering banning someone and how they inform them of this.

Vallhala · 15/03/2011 17:44

God that was an awful bit of repetition! Sorry, I surpassed even my own standards there. Must remember to preview and not try to multi-task, I just can't do it!

JaxTellersOldLady · 15/03/2011 18:15

long day valhalla?

Vallhala · 15/03/2011 18:40

Two words, Jax.... mother visiting! Shock

:o

Ceretrea · 15/03/2011 19:47

I have to ask Staffylover please. How can the rescue have known your son was going to homecheck someone when the dog was offered FTGH on Gumtree?

Are you saying they were aware of this and approved a homecheck or were they not told that was how your son had found the home.

You must understand that he did wrong and was promptly banned. Initially I thought this to be a case of him jumping the gun after a homecheck. However, it becomes clear that never do anyone ever offer a dog on sites like Gumtree.

In anycase, you son was banned, your partner left..RHU was logically to cancel your account also. I don't really think there is anything left to explain

Ceretrea · 15/03/2011 19:52

I also have to say that having thought about this, if a rescue representative threatened my son I would be naming them all over the internet and to anyone who would listen! As well as the police, solicitor and visting them in person.

Can I answer anyone who keeps mentioning the money aspect though. RHU members have been here and confirmed no money was given for the dog, the OP's son gave it away for free...it was actually one thing the rescue complained about if you reread back a few pages. That it had spent money on the dog and not been able to get a donation. That strikes me as a very odd response given the gist of the outrage. But then everything about this is odd

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staffylover · 15/03/2011 20:33

ceretrea of course I understand he did wrong...my original post stated this. He found someone and we mentioned this to the rescue they had no problem with it........this fell through.....he found the second one and we naturally assumed they would still have no problem with him homechecking. It was offered FTGH,unknown to us, but they spent an hour with the lady asking the usual questions...they didnt just meet up and dump the dog. Yes my partner left but i dont understand why it was logical to cancel my account? We have done nothing wrong. LET ME JUST STATE THE RESCUE SPENT NO MONEY ON THIS DOG BEFORE THEY SEIZED IT. Im assuming they have since. As I have said before it would be our word aginst the rescues representitive and RHU really didnt address this aspect. Just one last thing I can understand the depth of feeling but really the vitriol and name calling by some on here has really shocked me. We all must remain adult and leave all the name calling in the playground.

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staffylover · 15/03/2011 20:38

bigdaddy21 I`m complaining about RHU closing my account but detailing what that lead up to the closing of the account. As for naming the rescue representative RHU have all the details and must make their own decision.

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staffylover · 15/03/2011 20:42

vallhala RHU have said my account has been closed but have, so far, not given reasons. Read my response to bigdaddy21

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staffylover · 15/03/2011 20:46

Valhalla Nonsensical and bizarre...........you need proof. Its one persons word against another.

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staffylover · 15/03/2011 20:56

chickchickchicken Incomplete in what way? Because i wont name the rescue. Once again RHU HAVE THE DETAILS! well it was made and yes I did hear it. And recall and walking better on the lead. You obviously haven`t read the OP..............the threat was made to ME about him

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staffylover · 15/03/2011 21:02

chickchickchicken How am I irresponsible?

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staffylover · 15/03/2011 21:09

vallhala my partner saw the thread, I contacted my son he said yes. Thats what I mean by we

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digdaddy21 · 15/03/2011 22:35

ive read re read and dont see why rhu has any blame in this what so ever staffylover and its digdaddy21 cause i dig for a living to support the kids also dig for the truth especialy when a good forum like rhu is being attacked

your reluctances to name the rescue says it all

you broke the rules as did your kid and in due course will learn why rhu banned your account

ive been a member of rhu since the start admin and mods rescues and members are all dealt with when they break the rules

i dont like the fact a rescue threatend your son

nor do i like the fact your slaming rhu and not the rescue

just what is your problem naming the rescue as you have no problem naming rhu on here

and thats that end of conversation till you name the rescue staffylover

Morloth · 16/03/2011 02:17

Yes yes, but why are you here?

Given that you didn't expect rudeness you are a not a regular AIBU poster.

I have to know, I am very nosy.

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staffylover · 16/03/2011 10:59

digdaddy21 In what way does it say it all? In what way have I broken the rules, he did. I`m just wondering why RHU are penalising me when he broke the rules? I have no control over a 26 year old.

Let me just repeat RHU HAVE ALL THE DETAILS OF THE RESCUE AND WE HAVE GIVEN THEM OUR SIDE OF THE STORY. As in all things you have to have concrete proof, it is our word against the rescues and RHU have believed them. I tried to put something on the open forum on RHU but because my account was restricted they vetted it first and, not surprisingly, didn`t put it up.

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staffylover · 16/03/2011 11:02

Morloth I expected differing views not silly name calling and foul language from "ladies" I left all that behind when I left school. Do the same!

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staffylover · 16/03/2011 11:50

crazyhorse Its been said many times MONEY WAS NOT INVOLVED. Yes I`m surprised I have been banned...what have I personally done? Confused

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TallyB · 16/03/2011 12:07

"People connected to the rescue, NOT RHU, threatened to castrate my son and send animal rights "friends" to see him."

Surely this is the most important section of the OP, not a load of flim flam about the whys and wherefores of who did what with the dog. The dog is presumably safe, although if it is the care of people who use threats of castration to solve disputes one does wonder.

Staffylover - inform the police about this. Even if they can't/don't take action, the report will be on file, and it may not be the first time these people have made similar threats!

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staffylover · 16/03/2011 12:08

lessnarkypuffin Ive been denied access to RHUs open forum to talk about this. This is called "AIBU" and Im just asking the question and Im hoping to get answers to that question...simple really. I have got answers and most think I`m being unreasonable which is their prerogative..I can deal with that. But the assumptions, vitriol and down right rudeness is Shocking. WHAT I HAVE STATED IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH...You and the rest must deal with that...once again simple really.

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