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[staffylover]

to being miffed at being threatened and having my account closed?

My son fostered a dog through the above, they are a collection of volunteers who help rehome, mainly dogs, but cats and small furries as well. Without informing RHU he rehomed the dog, which is a big no-no...I bollocked him and the rescue got the dog back. People connected to the rescue, NOT RHU, threatened to castrate my son and send animal rights "friends" to see him. My son is an animal lover and at no time abused, harmed or in any way neglected this lovely dog and in the few days he had the dog he bought the dog a new crate new toys and turned her around from being a manic dog to one that was good with other dogs, walked good on the lead/off the lead and knew her basic commands. I loved doing things for the animals for no return. When this rescue got the dog back they told the woman that she had bitten a child, untrue, but on its website it says it is good with children? Any advice?

DooinMeCleaning Let me repeat...they had the dog doing the basics, recall was excellent walk on/off lead was excellent WITHIN 3 days.

Vallhala We will agree to disagree. At no time can he access my RHU account and we spoke/wrote to them as adults should, we told them the facts.....it was the two representatives of the rescue who were less than adult with all their shouting and threats.

If what rockmaiden is saying (you were aware of what you're son was doing) then I'm sorry but I agree that they were right to terminate your account.

Also - I agree that with the right training basic commands can be done within 3 days - we foster and we do it, but that still doesn't mean he should be rehoming without rescues consent.

We will indeed.

If you were aware of what your son was doing then that is ample reason to close your RHU membership and ban you.

I'm still interested to know which rescue made the threats....

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staffylover I think you have a resounding YABU.

and now there are others from RHU who seem to know more than 'us' certainly more information than I do.

Rockmaiden We knew he was doing a homecheck but nothing more. As far as the rescue having spent money that is far from the truth. My partner saw the thread on RHU, the dog was still in situ. We collected her from her former owners home and my son took her to his home that night. He spent a lot of money buying her a new crate and various toys and lead and harness. The ONLY contact the rescue had with the dog was when they seized her.They spent no money on her. I`m not defending his actions...he was an idiot. So you know for a fact this person is a known dog fighter? We all make mistakes, even long standing RHU people.

I did not once say they were dog fighters, I said how do you know they wern't?

This sort of information is confidential and there may have been a thousand reasons why they were not suitable for the dog. That is why checks are in place - to protect the animal.

Why did you think he was doing a homecheck, out of curiosity? He was clearly re-homing the dog if he was doing a home check.

The fact is your son was wrong and RHU have also closed your account as a) you could have stopped this and didn't, b) you clearly will, and are, siding with your son and c) they need to guarantee this dosn't happen again.

So to cut a long debate short, yes you are un-reasonable to be annoyed they blocked you. They are doing it in the best interest of their animals and in my opinion that makes them a good rescue. They care about and take responsibility for THEIR animals.

By the way I should point out I am simply a member of RHU and not in any way affiliated with them, I do not have 'inside information' but I do have access to the other side of the story.

The above comments about why your account was closed are my opinions and observations based on what has been said.

jaxtellersoldlady I`ve told it the way it is. the rescue said he could do the homecheck and as I have said thats all I thought he was doing. rockmaiden has got it wrong......the rescue spent no money and had no contact with the dog till they seized the dog

So which rescue are you accusing of issuing threats to your son?

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I`ll keep that to myself. They will only deny it.

Whether the rescue spent money on that particular dog shouldnt matter. You have been a member of a rescue site (by the way RHU is not a rescue it's more of a middle man) and KNOW that the easy rehomers pay for the long stayers/medical conditions. Your son should not have rehomed that dog without prior confirmation from the rescue.

If rockmaiden is wrong in what she's saying - you did not know that he was rehoming the dog then RHU should not have suspended your account BUT as I said before - if you don't like it find another. There are others out there.

So why are you using this forum to complain that you've been banned from another forum?

"I`ll keep that to myself. They will only deny it."

It could be argued that by 'keeping to yourself' the name of the rescue against which you are making allegations they are being denied the opportunity to defend themselves against your allegations and that those of us who are also members of RHU and are rescuers/volunteers are being denied the opportunity to speak in support of that rescue or avoid it as we see fit.

Is there really any use complaining and making allegations of such a serious nature if you're unwilling to state who the aggressor is?

Hoping to come here as the voice of reason amongst some obviously boiling emotions.

Doing a homecheck does not automatically mean you are rehoming a dog, it is one step upon that road and fosters can be homecheckers too. I thought all rescue people knew this?

So knowing he was doing a homecheck does not mean she knew he was rehoming the dog?

RHU is a forum not a rescue.

Implying the son took donation money is libel adn slander so be careful if you no evidence to back this up.

She is not 'siding' with her son as I read it merely trying to get the facts straight which everyone on here find so 'confusing'. I actually find that kind of sarcastic. Her posts read perfectly to me?

I'm not saying he was right, but I don't understand the ferocity of the reaction. And Staffylover states it was she who informed the rescue of his actions so exactly how is that wrong on her part?

Please do not make comparions to child fostering, it is totally different and belittles her opinion. Its only use is to escalate the issue at hand and make it more dramatic.

Staffylover, all I can suggest is that you contact the forum mods somehow to discuss your banning. You shouldn't be discussing it with RHU members or Mumsnet members really. This should be discussed with RHU and the rescue involved.

I can understand you feeling cross and upset, god help anyone who threatened a child of mine in that way and yes I do think you should involve the police as they need to have that sort of thing on record. Your account banning is one I can also understand you being upset about, especially as you seem to be making sure your son knows he did wrong. However, it is something for the mods and sometimes if you don't agree with them then another forum may suit.

What makes me cross is that so called animal lovers can be so vicious and vindictive. Fancy making that kind of threat to your family? They should be ashamed regardless of what happened there is no excuse for that.

To add, if any rescue person or anyone on the internet is slandering you, take copies of everything and if you can prove them to be incorrect you can take them to court. I'm surprised noone on here has informed you of that.

Lastly, a dog enters a phase of extremely good behaviour when entering a foster home for the first time. This can be misconstrued for a turn around in behaviour and can catch you offguard when they relapse a week or so down the line. Again I am saddened that people saw fit to jump on you for lying instead of explaining WHY you guys may have misunderstood the dogs behaviour.

luckysalem someone else brought up the subject of donations and I felt I had to put them right. I do know what RHU are and they do a wonderful job. I have canceled my account as I could not work with people who threaten/condone violence. My partners was canceled today by RHU.

You know when you're talking to someone through a window and they dont hear you?

Feeling a little like that here! lol

I do not ever condone violence and as you know rescue work is a truly BITCHY place to work. Although I've never known it before to erupt to violence.

If you cancelled your account, then RHU would automatically remove your partners. Standard procedure really

ceretea - I wouldnt cancel someones account just cos a family member did. I dont think that's particularly fair.

How much did your son sell it for did the lady donate to the rescue? Must have been quite a lot to get a threat of violence.

Equally, for balance, I am surprised the rescue haven't taken legal action against your son.

I think there is a lot here we aren't being told and as per my other post I feel this is best discussed between the relevant parties as no one can give an accurate opinion on something they aren't involved in.

Two sides to every story. On RHU we have just the rescues side and on here we have just your side. But neither of you is giving all the information. So best left to legal channels of dispute imo

catinthehat2, that is very petty. Actually both parties seem to have said there was no money changing hands.

ceretrea you are right I should not have come on here but like everyone else im passionate about animals and a big part has been stopped. Me and my son/family are animal lovers and would give my life for my animals. All my animals are from rescue, I have had staffies for 20+ years. Ive had dogs, cats, ferrets rats and more. We have helped, not always through RHU, many animals and now it has been taken away through no fault of me or my partner.

So what I don't understand is WHO did your son give this dog to? Someone he knew?

ceretrea i`ve told all I know.

catinthehat I will report you for that one!