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AIBU?

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RESCUE HELPERS UNITE

225 replies

staffylover · 14/03/2011 17:36

to being miffed at being threatened and having my account closed?

My son fostered a dog through the above, they are a collection of volunteers who help rehome, mainly dogs, but cats and small furries as well. Without informing RHU he rehomed the dog, which is a big no-no...I bollocked him and the rescue got the dog back. People connected to the rescue, NOT RHU, threatened to castrate my son and send animal rights "friends" to see him. My son is an animal lover and at no time abused, harmed or in any way neglected this lovely dog and in the few days he had the dog he bought the dog a new crate new toys and turned her around from being a manic dog to one that was good with other dogs, walked good on the lead/off the lead and knew her basic commands. I loved doing things for the animals for no return. When this rescue got the dog back they told the woman that she had bitten a child, untrue, but on its website it says it is good with children? Any advice?

OP posts:
Vallhala · 15/03/2011 00:50

Don't know if you can access the thread without being a member of the forum but we'll give it a try. here you go

loftyclodflop · 15/03/2011 00:52

Vallhala - you are a heroine, you really are.

As well as animal rescue I used to campaign against vivisection and by god that was soul destroying.

Morloth - it's the people who breed dogs who are crazy, not those who love their companion animals or try to rescue abused/neglected dogs or cats.

Morloth · 15/03/2011 00:53

Oh I am just being nosy Ceretrea, I think the OP sounds a bit mental, I think her son sounds a bit mental, I think the rescue involved sounds a bit mental.

In short the whole thing sounds a bit mental.

Ceretrea · 15/03/2011 00:53

Erm nope, all dog people are crazy. Trouble is we are all far too passionate at times :o

Ceretrea · 15/03/2011 00:54

Morloth, I guess it does rather doesn't it lol

Morloth · 15/03/2011 00:57

But entertaining nonetheless. What I don't get though is why it is here, not that I object of course, just can't see the connection between AIBU and a dog rescue board argument.

But I am bored today so will watch to see whether it gets anymore 'Best In Show'. Wink

Ceretrea · 15/03/2011 00:59

Morloth I think as the OP is a parent then this is an obvious choice as a source of support.
Don't forget this is the son's doing. The OP is adamant he/she knew nothing til they were told.

Morloth · 15/03/2011 01:02

There is no way a regular MN poster would come to AIBU for support.

digdaddy21 · 15/03/2011 06:16

ok staffy lover please confirm which rescue your son was dealing with

rescue helpers unite is a forum that rescues meet up to save dogs

i can not stand by and see the good name of rhu draged through the mud

admin mods members and rescues of rhu would be interested to which rescue orginisation your son got involved with so they can sort this out

staffylover please join rescue helpers unite .co.uk and contact admin thers a private section there so no one can see your post and only admin

no way would rhu be involved its only a forum for rescues to meet up and save dogs

they have sorted transport runs from london to orcney islands scotland and even over to ireland to down to london

rhu is like mums net in a way and can not be held responcibel for a certain rescue untill you name and shame them either here or rhu then they will be dealt with and banned from not only rhu but the uk rescue ferternity who are furious to here the good name of rhu draged through the mud when its a rescue not rhu who just provided a meeting place for animal lovers rescues helpers and members to save animals lifes

also contact the police about said rescue and please name and shame this rescue

Ceretrea · 15/03/2011 08:00

digdaddy21 I bellieve the mods of RHU have already dealt with this.

Please refer to the thread in the members section of RHU for more info.

JaxTellersOldLady · 15/03/2011 09:37

sheesh, it all went a bit mental after I went back to RL and my dogs...

I may be wrong, but, valhalla didnt staffylover post about dogs being rehomed on Gumtree a week or so ago?

Apologies if I have this wrong, but this just fucking stinks to me! To advertise a dog 'free to good home' on Gumtree is just awful. Makes my blood boil, why ah fuck it, dont even want to get into the whys and where fors! Angry

First staffy says she/he was banned from RHU forum, then says insisted that she/he left of own accord.

Then we have the son who did this without either parent having any knowledge... then the parent (s) reported him as they did know what the son was doing.

Confused ====================

cere on MN a lot of people highlight names and sometimes shorten names so you may be a combination of cere, ceretrea or trea, as Valhalla is often val and I get jax or JTOL. No paranoia on here.

JaxTellersOldLady · 15/03/2011 09:39

Oh... and AIBU is definitely NOT the place to get support, you get sarcasm, at the very least usually.

The OP should have posted this in the Doghouse section of MN, which is why I was a bit Hmm when I first read this post.

Vallhala · 15/03/2011 10:41

The topic of Gumtree came up Jax but not involving the OP as far as I know. The last poster to raise the issue was veritythebrave AFAIK.

JaxTellersOldLady · 15/03/2011 10:58

yes val you are correct. sorry OP, went back to check and realised it wasnt you, it was verity.

JaxTellersOldLady · 15/03/2011 10:59

ooh and I got a bit sweary...

oh dear.

Vallhala · 15/03/2011 11:09

:o

I never get sweary about dog welfare of course.

JaxTellersOldLady · 15/03/2011 11:57
Grin

no... you held it together very well. Wink

Ephiny · 15/03/2011 12:33

I'm a bit confused by this story - the OPs son adopted a rescue dog, presumably after going through the usual adoption process where they tell you very clearly that if things don't work out you must return the dog to them, he bought a crate, toys etc for the dog, managed to effect an almost instant miraculous change in dog's behaviour, then only a few days afterwards was trying to give the dog away on Gumtree? Confused. That just seems like really odd behaviour and I can't understand the motivation behind it. Was it his intention all along to obtain a dog so he could give it to someone? Or was he unable to cope with the dog, in which case why not ask the rescue for support or to take the dog back if necessary?

If the rescuers threatened OPs son with violence then obviously that is wrong, but his behaviour was also wrong and really quite bizarre IMO, and I wouldn't blame people for suspecting some malicious intent as his behaviour is just so inexplicable otherwise.

JaxTellersOldLady · 15/03/2011 13:18

ephiny he didnt adopt the dog - he was fostering the dog on behalf of an unknown (to us) rescue organisation. He then gave the dog away (or rehomed) which is not allowed under the terms & conditions of fostering.

Hope that clears things up a bit for you.

Ephiny · 15/03/2011 13:39

I see - though in that case it seems even more of a strange thing to do, not at all surprised people were outraged!

staffylover · 15/03/2011 14:38

morleth I expected people for/against with reasoned arguments. I dont expect ruedeness. My partner left of his own accord, cant work with people who threaten/condone violence. My account, separate from his, was cancelled by RHU. The rescue [unknown to all]had nothing to do with rescuing the dog, a person seperate from the rescue, put a thread on RHU saying the dog needed fostering, we offered. At the last minute this rescue came in saying they would offer RESCUE BACKUP, vallhala can explain this much better. Untill they seized the dog they had nothing to do with it, no phone calls requesting updates. The rescues website is using a photo taken by my son and are quoting him about the dogs progress stating "she already knows sit, stay and her recall is progressing well"
epihany read above

OP posts:
staffylover · 15/03/2011 14:56

bigdaddy they know the name of the rescue. As far as Im concerned I havent dragged RHU through the mud. Ive stated they have cancelled my account and apart from picking the dog up from its previous owner Ive had nothing to do with this sad state of affairs yet I`m being penalised. I think Ive stated several times my son had permission to homecheck and he took the dog with him, I voiced concerns with RHU mods about the suitability of the fosterer but at no time did I think he would give the dog over like he did

OP posts:
staffylover · 15/03/2011 15:00

bigdaddy21 I so would love to shame this person/rescue but obviously they have denied any such statements as we have been penalised by RHU. And what can the police do without some sort of evidence...the rescues` word against ours.

OP posts:
Vallhala · 15/03/2011 15:37

"The rescue [unknown to all]had nothing to do with rescuing the dog, a person seperate from the rescue, put a thread on RHU saying the dog needed fostering, we offered. At the last minute this rescue came in saying they would offer RESCUE BACKUP, vallhala can explain this much better. Untill they seized the dog they had nothing to do with it, no phone calls requesting updates."

Happy to explain because I think you too are a little unaware of what "rescue back-up" actually means need to be as clear on the process as non rescue people, staffylover

RHU's forum policy doesn't allow an individual to merely say "There's a dog in danger of being killed, he needs a place in a rescue or someone to foster him, please help.". Any individual requesting someone to foster an animal has to first secure the support of a rescue, which is known as "rescue back-up".

This support must include support and advice for the fosterer, insurance for third parties whilst the dog is being transported from the pound/original owner to the foster carer and also a promise from the rescue that they will take the dog in if the foster carer cannot keep him any more. This prevents a situation where the dog has nowhere to go if it all goes tits up.

The responsibility for the dog on a day to day basis is ultimately down to the fosterer with the rescue there as a last resort.

You say that the rescue had "nothing to do with the dog", staffylover, but they do not need to - that's the way it works. From what you have said here and unless there is more you haven't told us the only time the rescue needed to become involved was when the fosterer decided that they were no longer willing to keep the dog and advertised him on Gumtree to a complete bloody stranger!

At that point the fosterer - i.e. your son - should have handed the dog to the rescue, not to a stranger.

The rescue have acted entirely according to normal rescue back up procedure and have done nothing wrong.

I find it interesting that you say above that "a person seperate from the rescue, put a thread on RHU saying the dog needed fostering, we offered."

"WE offered"?????

But I thought you said that this had nothing to do with you and it was your son who offered to take the dog, not you? Hmm Confused

digdaddy21 · 15/03/2011 16:02

staffy lover please name this rescue

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